As for sex, you should stay pure before marriage as far as you can, but if you have to indulge, do only what is lawful. However, do not be angry with those who do indulge, or criticise them, and do not boast of the fact that you do not yourself indulge.
If you are told that someone is saying bad things about you, do not defend yourself against what is said, but answer, ‘Obviously this person is ignorant of my other faults, otherwise they would not have mentioned only these ones.’
Epictetus, The Handbook, 33
If you are told that someone is saying bad things about you, do not defend yourself against what is said, but answer, ‘Obviously this person is ignorant of my other faults, otherwise they would not have mentioned only these ones.’
Epictetus, The Handbook, 33
The lovers of learning know that when philosophy gets hold of their soul, it is imprisoned in and clinging to the body, and that it is forced to examine other things through it as through a cage and not by itself, and that it wallows in every kind of ignorance. Philosophy sees that the worst feature of this imprisonment is that it is due to desires, so that the prisoner himself is contributing to his own incarceration most of all. As I say, the lovers of learning know that philosophy gets hold of their soul when it is in that state, then gently encourages it and tries to free it by showing them that investigation through the eyes is full of deceit, as is that through the ears and the other senses. Philosophy then persuades the soul to withdraw from the senses in so far as it is not compelled to use them and bids the soul to gather itself together by itself, to trust only itself and whatever reality, existing by itself, the soul by itself understands, and not to consider as true whatever it examines by other means, for this is different in different circumstances and is sensible and visible, whereas what the soul itself sees is intelligible and invisible. The soul of the true philosopher thinks that this deliverance must not be opposed and so keeps away from pleasures and desires and pains as far as he can; he reflects that violent pleasures or pain or passion does not cause merely such evils as one might expect, such as one suffers when one has been sick or extravagant through desire, but the greatest and most extreme evil, though one does not reflect on this. ... The soul of every man, when it feels violent pleasure or pain in connection with some object, inevitably believes at the same time that what causes such feelings must be very clear and very true, which it is not. ... Every pleasure or pain provides, as it were, another nail to rivet the soul to the body and to weld them together. It makes the soul corporeal, so that it believes that truth is what the body says it is. As it shares the beliefs and delights of the body, I think it inevitably comes to share its ways and manner of life and is unable ever to reach Hades in a pure state; it is always full of body when it departs, so that it soon falls back into another body and grows with it as if it had been sewn into it. Because of this, it can have no part in the company of the divine, the pure and uniform.
Plato, Phaedo, 82e - 83e
Plato, Phaedo, 82e - 83e
How angry you would be if someone handed over your body to just any person who happened to meet you! Are you not ashamed, then, when you hand over your mind to just any person you happen to meet, such that when they abuse you, you are upset and troubled?
Epictetus, The Handbook, 28
Epictetus, The Handbook, 28
Socrates: Don't you realize that the errors in our conduct are caused by this kind of ignorance, of thinking that we know when we don't know?
Alcibiades: What do you mean by that?
Socrates: Well, we don't set out to do something unless we think we know what we're doing, right?
Alcibiades: Right.
Socrates: But when people don't think they know how to do something, they hand it over to somebody else, right?
Alcibiades: Of course.
Socrates: So the sort of people who don't think they know how to do things make no mistakes in life, because they leave those things to other people.
Alcibiades: You're right.
Socrates: Well, who are the ones making the mistakes? Surely not the ones who know?
Alcibiades: Of course not.
Socrates: Well, since it's not those who know, and it's not those who don't know and know they don't know, is there anyone left except those who don't know but think they do know?
Alcibiades: No, they're the only ones left.
Socrates: So this is the ignorance that causes bad things; this is the most disgraceful sort of stupidity.
Alcibiades: Yes.
Socrates: And isn't it most harmful and most contemptible when it is ignorance of the most important things?
Alcibiades: Very much so.
Socrates: Well, can you name anything more important than what's just and admirable and good and advantageous?
Plato, First Alcibiades
Alcibiades: What do you mean by that?
Socrates: Well, we don't set out to do something unless we think we know what we're doing, right?
Alcibiades: Right.
Socrates: But when people don't think they know how to do something, they hand it over to somebody else, right?
Alcibiades: Of course.
Socrates: So the sort of people who don't think they know how to do things make no mistakes in life, because they leave those things to other people.
Alcibiades: You're right.
Socrates: Well, who are the ones making the mistakes? Surely not the ones who know?
Alcibiades: Of course not.
Socrates: Well, since it's not those who know, and it's not those who don't know and know they don't know, is there anyone left except those who don't know but think they do know?
Alcibiades: No, they're the only ones left.
Socrates: So this is the ignorance that causes bad things; this is the most disgraceful sort of stupidity.
Alcibiades: Yes.
Socrates: And isn't it most harmful and most contemptible when it is ignorance of the most important things?
Alcibiades: Very much so.
Socrates: Well, can you name anything more important than what's just and admirable and good and advantageous?
Plato, First Alcibiades
Just as a small object nearby falsely appears larger than a large object in the distance, so do short term goods (or apparent goods) seem greater than long term goods. But they are not actually greater - they only seem so. Therefore we must train ourselves to judge correctly. Cf. Plato, Protagoras
Your appetites are your “peasant class.” Your will is your “warrior class.” And your reason is your king - you are the “king” of yourself. Be sure to act like it.
People often wonder if there is a Western analog to Eastern meditation.
The answer is yes.
In our tradition, reason is akin to the divine. Therefore, to use reason to meditate on the divine is a spiritual activity. The method for doing this is called Dialectic or Meditation and Socrates is our great example of the meditating philosopher, of the dialectician.
Study the dialogues and you will learn how to use divine reason to move closer to divinity.
Once, having used dialectic, you have meditated, you can then sit in quiet knowing and see. This is Contemplation.
The answer is yes.
In our tradition, reason is akin to the divine. Therefore, to use reason to meditate on the divine is a spiritual activity. The method for doing this is called Dialectic or Meditation and Socrates is our great example of the meditating philosopher, of the dialectician.
Study the dialogues and you will learn how to use divine reason to move closer to divinity.
Once, having used dialectic, you have meditated, you can then sit in quiet knowing and see. This is Contemplation.
But you must always remember that this is not some self-aggrandizing intellectual game. It is the most serious thing.
Because of the state of modern global politics and society, many people have an understandable desire to find a spiritual path that is rooted in and expresses the spiritual understanding of their own heritage. There is nothing wrong with this. Indeed, one major reason I am not a Hindu is because, though I respect Hinduism and the Indian people tremendously, I can never shake the feeling that it (Hinduism) just is not mine. It is culturally unfamiliar.
However, I want to caution you against some common errors I see people making as a result of this desire.
First, there seems to be a tendency to conflate "universally true" with the Christian and Islamic imperative to convert everyone, as though if a religion is objectively true, and consequently universally true, then it obligates global outreach and proselytization. But one simply does not follow from the other. On the contrary, if something is universally true, then distinct cultures will probably tend to develop their own approaches to that truth which will interpret that reality, or aspects of that reality, in ways more useful to and intuitive for those cultures and peoples. This is what we do see happening throughout history and there is no reason for us to interfere with that process. Furthermore, if you believe that divinity is responsible for the existence of the cosmos, it is plainly incoherent to believe that is not a "universal" truth, since it entails the literal creation of the universe.
Second, I have noticed unhealthy ideas regarding the influence of different cultures and ethnicities. On the "Left" there is sometimes a bizarre need to overemphasize contributions or influences by non-Western peoples, almost as if they believe there is something shameful in having a tradition that is "too European." On the other hand, those on the "Right" can have an irrational aversion to even the slightest outside influence, with the result that they confine themselves to a narrow menu of options, none of which we know much about. But would you discard algebra because it was largely developed by Persians and Arabs and restrict yourself exclusively to the use of Euclidean geometry? That would be manifest nonsense. But the actual fact of the matter is that the Hellenic tradition is overwhelmingly the story - the collective path... - of the West developing its relationship with and beautiful understanding of the Divine. It is a path that will speak to you in terms that seem familiar and intuitive - you will feel like you are doing what you are doing: stepping onto the path of the European Wisdom Tradition.
So, please, do not fall into these common traps. I hope you'll find much that is useful.
However, I want to caution you against some common errors I see people making as a result of this desire.
First, there seems to be a tendency to conflate "universally true" with the Christian and Islamic imperative to convert everyone, as though if a religion is objectively true, and consequently universally true, then it obligates global outreach and proselytization. But one simply does not follow from the other. On the contrary, if something is universally true, then distinct cultures will probably tend to develop their own approaches to that truth which will interpret that reality, or aspects of that reality, in ways more useful to and intuitive for those cultures and peoples. This is what we do see happening throughout history and there is no reason for us to interfere with that process. Furthermore, if you believe that divinity is responsible for the existence of the cosmos, it is plainly incoherent to believe that is not a "universal" truth, since it entails the literal creation of the universe.
Second, I have noticed unhealthy ideas regarding the influence of different cultures and ethnicities. On the "Left" there is sometimes a bizarre need to overemphasize contributions or influences by non-Western peoples, almost as if they believe there is something shameful in having a tradition that is "too European." On the other hand, those on the "Right" can have an irrational aversion to even the slightest outside influence, with the result that they confine themselves to a narrow menu of options, none of which we know much about. But would you discard algebra because it was largely developed by Persians and Arabs and restrict yourself exclusively to the use of Euclidean geometry? That would be manifest nonsense. But the actual fact of the matter is that the Hellenic tradition is overwhelmingly the story - the collective path... - of the West developing its relationship with and beautiful understanding of the Divine. It is a path that will speak to you in terms that seem familiar and intuitive - you will feel like you are doing what you are doing: stepping onto the path of the European Wisdom Tradition.
So, please, do not fall into these common traps. I hope you'll find much that is useful.
Rejecting Platonism because some of its ideas were borrowed (successfully or not) by Christianity would be like rejecting classical music because jazz borrowed some concepts from it and you don’t like jazz.
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Surely anyone with any sense at all will always call upon a god before setting out on any venture, whatever its importance.
Plato, Timaeus, 27c
Plato, Timaeus, 27c
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The whole combination of soul and body is called a living thing, or animal, and has the designation ‘mortal’ as well. Such a combination cannot be immortal, not on any reasonable account. In fact it is pure fiction, based neither on observation nor on adequate reasoning, that a god is an immortal living thing which has a body and a soul, and that these are bound together by nature for all time.
Plato, Phaedrus 246c-d
Plato, Phaedrus 246c-d
Regular reminder that philosophy is not armchair nerdism. It is the love of wisdom, the pursuit of the divine. If your practice of philosophy does not result in significant lifestyle changes, you aren’t a philosopher, you’re just some guy who likes to sound smart.
Is the pleasant to be done for the sake of the good, or the good for the sake of the pleasant? The pleasant for the sake of the good. ... But surely we are good, both we and everything else that’s good, when some excellence has come to be present in us? But the best way in which the excellence of each thing comes to be present in it, whether it’s that of an artifact or of a body or a soul as well, or of any animal, is not just any old way, but it is due to whatever organization, correctness, and craftsmanship is bestowed on each of them. ... So it’s when a certain order, the proper one for each thing, comes to be present in it that it makes each of the things there are, good? So also a soul which has its own order is better than a disordered one? So a self-controlled soul is a good one. I say that if a self-controlled soul is a good one, then a soul that’s been affected the opposite way of the self-controlled one is a bad one. And this, it’s turned out, is the foolish and undisciplined one. And surely a self-controlled person would do what’s appropriate with respect to both gods and human beings. For if he did what’s inappropriate, he wouldn’t be self-controlled. And of course if he did what’s appropriate with respect to human beings, he would be doing what’s just, and with respect to gods he would be doing what’s pious, and one who does what is just and pious must necessarily be just and pious. Yes, and he would also necessarily be brave, for it’s not like a self-controlled man to either pursue or avoid what isn’t appropriate, but to avoid and pursue what he should, whether these are things to do, or people, or pleasures and pains, and to stand fast and endure them where he should. So, it’s necessarily very much the case, Callicles, that the self-controlled man, because he’s just and brave and pious, as we’ve recounted, is a completely good man, that the good man does well and admirably whatever he does, and that the man who does well is blessed and happy, while the corrupt man, the one who does badly, is miserable. ... And if it is true, then a person who wants to be happy must evidently pursue and practice self-control.
Plato, Gorgias, 506c-507d
Plato, Gorgias, 506c-507d
"Perhaps one who is truly a man should stop thinking about how long he will live. He should not be attached to life but should commit these concerns to the god and believe the women who say that not one single person can escape fate. He should thereupon give consideration to how he might live the part of his life still before him as well as possible."
Plato, Gorgias 512e
Plato, Gorgias 512e
O dear Pan and all the other gods of this place, grant that I may be beautiful inside. Let all my external possessions be in friendly harmony with what is within. May I consider the wise man rich. As for gold, let me have as much as a moderate man could bear and carry with him.
Socrates’ prayer in Plato’s Phaedrus, 279c
Socrates’ prayer in Plato’s Phaedrus, 279c
More especially, the very antiquity of these practices seems to have corrupted the natural pleasures of which are common to man and beast. For these perversions, your two states may well be the first to be blamed, as well as any others that make a particular point of gymnastic exercises. Circumstances may make you treat this subject either light-heartedly or seriously; in either case you ought to bear in mind that when male and female come together in order to have a child, the pleasure they experience seems to arise entirely naturally. But homosexual intercourse and lesbianism seem to be unnatural crimes of the first rank, and are committed because men and women cannot control their desire for pleasure. It is the Cretans we all hold to blame for making up the story of Ganymede: they were so firmly convinced that their laws came from Zeus that they saddled him with this fable, in order to have a divine 'precedent' when enjoying their particular pleasure.
Plato, Laws, 636c
Plato, Laws, 636c
The actions that are appropriate for us can generally be determined by our relationships. He is your father. This tells you to take care of him, to yield to him in all things, to put up with him when he abuses you or beats you.
‘But he is a bad father.’
Nature did not provide for you a good father, but a father. Your brother wrongs you? Well then, maintain your relationship to him. Do not think about what he is doing, but about what you will have to do if you want to keep your moral character in accordance with nature. For no one can harm you unless you wish it. You will be harmed only when you think you are harmed. If you get into the habit of looking at the relationships implied by ‘neighbor’, ‘citizen’, ‘commander’, you will discover what is proper to expect from each.
Epictetus, The Handbook, 30
‘But he is a bad father.’
Nature did not provide for you a good father, but a father. Your brother wrongs you? Well then, maintain your relationship to him. Do not think about what he is doing, but about what you will have to do if you want to keep your moral character in accordance with nature. For no one can harm you unless you wish it. You will be harmed only when you think you are harmed. If you get into the habit of looking at the relationships implied by ‘neighbor’, ‘citizen’, ‘commander’, you will discover what is proper to expect from each.
Epictetus, The Handbook, 30
The Classical Wisdom Tradition
The actions that are appropriate for us can generally be determined by our relationships. He is your father. This tells you to take care of him, to yield to him in all things, to put up with him when he abuses you or beats you. ‘But he is a bad father.’ …
This is one of the trickier passages in Epictetus as it can be read as advocating that you be utterly passive. That is not the meaning here. Rather, the point is that the badness of the other person (or people) is not your business. Your concern is to do what is correct and appropriate regardless of what they are doing.
It is in the activities of men that the evils appear, and that not of all men nor always. And as to these, if men sinned for the sake of evil, nature itself would be evil. But if the adulterer thinks his adultery bad but his pleasure good, and the murderer thinks the murder bad but the money he gets by it good, and the man who does evil to an enemy thinks that to do evil is bad but to punish his enemy good, and if the soul commits all its sins in that way, then the evils are done for the sake of goodness. The soul sins therefore because, while aiming at good, it makes mistakes about the good, because it is not primary essence. And we see many things done by the Gods to prevent it from making mistakes and to heal it when it has made them. Arts and sciences, curses and prayers, sacrifices and initiations, laws and constitutions, judgments and punishments, all came into existence for the sake of preventing souls from sinning; and when they are gone forth from the body, Gods and spirits of purification cleanse them of their sins.
Sallust, On the Gods and the World
Sallust, On the Gods and the World
The word philosophy means “love of wisdom.” A love of wisdom should be your motivation - not escape from feelings, not cool mystical experiences, not some kind of status as an intellectual, not your political opinions. If you are not motivated by a love for wisdom, you are walking down the wrong path.