Bullshit from Amnesty about death sentence / Cazzate di Amnesty sulla pena di morte / Conneries d'Amnesty sur la peine de mort – Telegram
Bullshit from Amnesty about death sentence / Cazzate di Amnesty sulla pena di morte / Conneries d'Amnesty sur la peine de mort
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It's time that human rights for those who don't respect human rights get listed and the death sentence get discussed not like a tabu or with bullshit! @WomenRightsTelegram @GenRevolutionOfficial @DeathSentenceFAQ @AmnestyPropaganda
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Convicted rapist gets 18 life sentences

Just some examples how laws are 💩 maybe the same case in a country or region you get 6 years, in another one you get 1000+ years of prisons.

The same about which person you rape ... depending on age to age (even if something like the 3 years rule like in Switzerland make sense, if this is not a rape, but just sex ...), if the person commit suicide, etc. there are no sense sentence (or even no sentence at all), like we previously shared.

The topic is huge complex, but sentence should be equal and standardised. So again, first we need to write human rights for those who don't respect human rights (means writing a list depending of which crime has been made, even considering the intensity of the crime), then we can talk about which sentence is properly.

About that, we should consider all different aspects. Obviously sentences should not made based on discrimination or bullshit without facts. We still need to remember that there are innocent people in prisons too.
Death / lifetime sentence (part 1)

UNTERSCHRIFTENSAMMLUNG: Luzerner lancieren Initiative zur Todesstrafe https://perma.cc/BPE8-TUCX

Das ging aber schnell: Nur einen Tag nach Start der Unterschriftensammlung ziehen die Initianten das Volksbegehren zurück https://perma.cc/L3L4-RLMD

Weltkoalition gegen die Todesstrafe https://perma.cc/V3XQ-EAQ2

Eidgenössische Volksinitiative 'Todesstrafe bei Mord mit sexuellem Missbrauch' https://perma.cc/2K94-V7TU

Umstrittene Initiative für die Todesstrafe https://perma.cc/F64G-EKLF

Vor 140 Jahren sagte das Volk Ja zur Todesstrafe https://perma.cc/3AWK-QCLU

Wiedereinführung der Todesstrafe https://perma.cc/JX26-DN6M

Bundestag behält Abschaffung der Todesstrafe bei https://perma.cc/T4K4-BZLT

UNWIRKSAM, GRAUSAM UND UNGERECHT (from "vegan" Amnesty): https://perma.cc/FYV8-XG4K

Hafez, who was accused of a crime he insists he didn’t commit, first faced a firing squad in 2005 https://perma.cc/8MVP-5YSR
Yes, "vegan" Amnesty (because you know how it's impossible to discuss with some vegans), you can show such cases, but still doesn't change the fact that not all criminals are innocents and for some sentence, prisoners are even proud of that! Plus we already wrote the goal is not to repeat the "Prison Break" story ... so it always depends from case to case, the amount / type of proofs, etc.

Many people have been executed despite serious doubts about their guilt —> here we go again ... see previous answer

325 executions were recorded for drug-related offence https://perma.cc/H9RU-RNYX —> just another example how you correlate death sentence with a no sense sentence. Obviously people doing drug traffic should not get such type of sentence.

The death penalty also denies someone the right to be free from torture. It is a violent irreversible punishment —> bullshit! Where do you live Amnesty? Don't check just specific countries using old methods (and think about assisted suicide methods too = no pain at all!) https://perma.cc/J6E7-DLQT
Death / lifetime sentence (part 2)

There is no credible evidence that the death penalty deters crime more effectively than a prison term https://perma.cc/RS27-JXB3 —> Again we are checking such things without considering the difference of crimes (exactly like health guidelines are doing, without providing an exact therapy for a specific disease or stage of disease, but they just write general recommendations) ... plus would be cool if you cite "such science" you are saying ....

You do that here in part https://perma.cc/5YKQ-8R86

In 2004 in the USA, the average murder rate for states that used the death penalty was 5.71 per 100,000 of the population as
against 4.02 per 100,000 in states that
did not use it. In 2003 in Canada, 27
years after the country abolished the
death penalty the murder rate had fallen
by 44 per cent since 1975 —> why we don't talk about crimes from people released after a soft sentence

The death penalty reduces drug crime —> again same shit about drugs ...

Another point: having death sentence doesn't mean you need to use it!!! but without having it, you cannot use it, when needed!

Amnesty, you look like some position papers citing studies published 30 years ago (we already wrote about such papers before ...), even if things changed in 30 years and new studies / methods got published / released ...

PS: until now we haven't done any detailed search about death sentence in recent scientific papers, but remember that many factors have an influence on the effectiveness ... plus it's not just about reducing crime, but to keep people safe and reduce costs, in country with huge public debts. So effectiveness related to what? Without considering that sometimes stats are not the reality ... especially if no one is telling specific things to the public ...

The death penalty remains the strongest deterrent to violent crime https://perma.cc/V8Q3-LCTW

10 facts about the death penalty in the U.S. https://perma.cc/ZEG8-CXVE
In 2004, there were an estimated 1,367,009 violent crimes. The offense of forcible rape was the only violent crime to show an increase, 0.8 percent, in the estimated number of offenses from the previous year’s data. Decreases in the estimated number of the various violent offenses included murder, down 2.4 percent; robbery, down 3.1 percent; and aggravated assaults, down 0.5 percent when compared with 2003 figures.

The FBI estimated that law enforcement personnel collectively made slightly more than 14 million arrests in 2004. The arrest rate for the Nation was 4,777.2 arrests per 100,000 inhabitants; for violent crime, arrests numbered 202.0 per 100,000 in population; and for property crime, 568.2 per 100,000 in population. A breakdown of the data for the two crime categories showed that for violent crimes, the arrest rate for murder was 4.8; forcible rape, 8.9; robbery, 37.7; and aggravated assault, 150.6 per 100,000 inhabitants https://perma.cc/J9AU-TREX https://perma.cc/KB5U-QFVY

Homicide Mortality by State https://perma.cc/3YK8-P44N

Death Penalty 2021: Facts and Figures https://perma.cc/DX8A-WKYV
All 11 of the recorded executions in 2021 took place in the USA.

Defendants Sentenced to Death in 2021 https://perma.cc/45T5-S46F

Well let we compare the two pictures.
In blue: Alabama, Mississippi, Lousiana, New Mexico.

Death Sentences in 2021: Alabama, Oklahoma, California, Texas, Florida, Nebraska, Tennessee

America’s death map: Which US states still have capital punishment & who uses it the most? https://perma.cc/J6MS-XMG5

Illinois for example has no death penality since 2011 https://perma.cc/P7TC-5HGU, we still have an homicide rate of 12.3 / 100k (New Mexico 15.3 & since 2009 https://perma.cc/G4MR-9LLD), where in Indiana we have 9.6 with death sentence but not executed sentence in 2021 ... (last was in 2009 https://perma.cc/9JXT-WRPH).

Just to show you how bullshit are such infos they shared, if you check really stats ... and now just about this topic, without considering all other things we wrote.