Formula Data Analysis
In 2025, McLaren and Ferrari both updated their front suspensions, but Ferrari radically changed their layout from Push-Rod to Pull-Rod: McL went from quickest to dominating, while Ferrari lost most of its pace after fighting for the 2024 F1 WCC. More info…
Kinematically, push/pull-rod are equivalent: the wheel can displace in the same way with both configurations (meaning that, as the car goes over a bump or the tyre load changes due to load transfer, the wheel changes its camber, toe, etc., in the same way)
But here's the catch:
- Constrains (aero, clearance, mechanical stress) might prevent designing a pull-rod that behaves like the previous push-rod;
- Compliance (carbon fiber is very stiff, but it still deforms!) can change that further;
- The impact on airflow is significant, and sometimes unpredictable.
But here's the catch:
- Constrains (aero, clearance, mechanical stress) might prevent designing a pull-rod that behaves like the previous push-rod;
- Compliance (carbon fiber is very stiff, but it still deforms!) can change that further;
- The impact on airflow is significant, and sometimes unpredictable.
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Formula Data Analysis
Kinematically, push/pull-rod are equivalent: the wheel can displace in the same way with both configurations (meaning that, as the car goes over a bump or the tyre load changes due to load transfer, the wheel changes its camber, toe, etc., in the same way)…
Changing the upper-wishbone angle, like both teams did, has mostly predictable mechanical effects (e.g. on the anti-dive and local stresses) and a more complex impact on the airflow.
Changing the suspension layout (Push➡️Pull-rod) has a much greater (and unpredictable!) effect!
Changing the suspension layout (Push➡️Pull-rod) has a much greater (and unpredictable!) effect!
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Formula Data Analysis
Changing the upper-wishbone angle, like both teams did, has mostly predictable mechanical effects (e.g. on the anti-dive and local stresses) and a more complex impact on the airflow. Changing the suspension layout (Push➡️Pull-rod) has a much greater (and…
When the car was revealed, I lauded Ferrari's audacity in changing such a crucial design aspect in the last year of regulations, despite getting close to the noscript in the previous year.
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The gamble hasn't paid off, though...
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BELGIAN GP - WING THURSDAY!
🟦 Red Bull is using the same low-load wing used in Silverstone (which got VER on pole, then ruined his wet race), despite the 75% rain probability at the race start in Spa. 🤔
Spa, however, features fewer medium/high speed corners (mostly S2) and more time spent full throttle than Silverstone: the balance favours low drag rather than high downforce 👌
⬛️ Mercedes: low load as well
🟧 McL /🟥 Ferrari: higher
🟩 Sauber shifted its load from the lower to the DRS plane: their DRS effectiveness should be very high!
⬜️ Minimal drag for Haas: let's see if they have enough downforce to run that wing!
📸 @AlbertFabrega
🟦 Red Bull is using the same low-load wing used in Silverstone (which got VER on pole, then ruined his wet race), despite the 75% rain probability at the race start in Spa. 🤔
Spa, however, features fewer medium/high speed corners (mostly S2) and more time spent full throttle than Silverstone: the balance favours low drag rather than high downforce 👌
⬛️ Mercedes: low load as well
🟧 McL /🟥 Ferrari: higher
🟩 Sauber shifted its load from the lower to the DRS plane: their DRS effectiveness should be very high!
⬜️ Minimal drag for Haas: let's see if they have enough downforce to run that wing!
📸 @AlbertFabrega
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BELGIAN GP - PRACTICE 1 ANALYSIS
BEST SECTORS 📊
Sector 1: 🟦 VER (Highest top speed: 345km/h!);
Sector 2: 🟧 PIA (Excellent downforce);
Sector 3: 🟩 ANT (Excellent sector time on Mediums!).
Both Mercedes and Racing Bulls on Mediums.
TSU and BEA too.
NOR had a TEN km/h top speed deficit to VER: he was nowhere in S1 and S3 (which require low drag), but his (and PIA's) pace in the twisty S2 was impressive.
BEST SECTORS 📊
Sector 1: 🟦 VER (Highest top speed: 345km/h!);
Sector 2: 🟧 PIA (Excellent downforce);
Sector 3: 🟩 ANT (Excellent sector time on Mediums!).
Both Mercedes and Racing Bulls on Mediums.
TSU and BEA too.
NOR had a TEN km/h top speed deficit to VER: he was nowhere in S1 and S3 (which require low drag), but his (and PIA's) pace in the twisty S2 was impressive.
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Formula Data Analysis
BELGIAN GP - PRACTICE 1 ANALYSIS BEST SECTORS 📊 Sector 1: 🟦 VER (Highest top speed: 345km/h!); Sector 2: 🟧 PIA (Excellent downforce); Sector 3: 🟩 ANT (Excellent sector time on Mediums!). Both Mercedes and Racing Bulls on Mediums. TSU and BEA too. NOR had…
TOP SPEEDS
10km/h between VER and NOR!
10km/h between VER and NOR!
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BELGIAN GP - SPRINT QUALI | VER vs PIA Telemetry:
🟦 VER: less drag (+3km/h top speed, gained on all straights); despite that, he was quicker in the Pouhon corner! (295 vs 292km/h, lifting less).
🟧 PIA was quicker T7 to T9, but most of his massive gap was made T12 to T15: RBR looks like a midfield car!
Additional analyses coming soon! 🔥
🟦 VER: less drag (+3km/h top speed, gained on all straights); despite that, he was quicker in the Pouhon corner! (295 vs 292km/h, lifting less).
🟧 PIA was quicker T7 to T9, but most of his massive gap was made T12 to T15: RBR looks like a midfield car!
Additional analyses coming soon! 🔥
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It finally happened: the W11, the fastest #F1 car ever designed, was beaten! 🤯
PIA beat its laptime by 0.742s! ✅
⬛️W11 (2020): quicker mostly in the medium-speed corners and changes of direction (54kg lighter).
🟧MCL38: unmatched aero efficiency thanks to ground effect! Way less drag with DRS open (+12km/h top speed) and more peak downforce (was as quick in Pouhon: the additional downforce compensated for the added mass)!
This is the first time this happened, and Spa was the ideal track for that (fast layout ➡️Ground effect cars' high efficiency shines; it was also resurfaced in 2024).
Which record will fall next? 👀
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PIA beat its laptime by 0.742s! ✅
⬛️W11 (2020): quicker mostly in the medium-speed corners and changes of direction (54kg lighter).
🟧MCL38: unmatched aero efficiency thanks to ground effect! Way less drag with DRS open (+12km/h top speed) and more peak downforce (was as quick in Pouhon: the additional downforce compensated for the added mass)!
This is the first time this happened, and Spa was the ideal track for that (fast layout ➡️Ground effect cars' high efficiency shines; it was also resurfaced in 2024).
Which record will fall next? 👀
Made via @JMP_software
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Formula Data Analysis
It finally happened: the W11, the fastest #F1 car ever designed, was beaten! 🤯 PIA beat its laptime by 0.742s! ✅ ⬛️W11 (2020): quicker mostly in the medium-speed corners and changes of direction (54kg lighter). 🟧MCL38: unmatched aero efficiency thanks to…
This means that PIA was also over 1.2s quicker than the monstrous, non-WEC legal Porsche 919 Evo, which reached 359km/h over the Kemmel straight!
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Formula Data Analysis
BELGIAN GP - SPRINT SPRINT PACE: Tier 1 (Win-worthy) 🟧NOR/🟦VER/🟧PIA Tier 2 (Best of the rest) 🟥LEC +0.46s Tier 3 (Top of the midfield) ⬜️OCO/🟦SAI +0.82/0.85s HAM reached 358km/h during the Sprint, thanks to DRS and a very strong tow! Expect some crazy…
Top speeds and performance at the start
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BELGIAN GP
1) RACE PACE (on slicks)
1) 🟧 NOR (Quickest on average, also thanks to Hards);
2) 🟧 PIA +0.33s/lap;
3) 🟥 LEC +0.45s/lap;
4) 🟦 VER +0.47s/lap;
5) 🟩 RUS +0.88s/lap.
2) TOP SPEEDS (Bottom part of image):
ANT reached 356km/h!
LewisHamilton, however, reached 358km/h in the Sprint.
VER's high-load setup made him the slowest in the speed traps (but the McL drivers, who didn't use DRS either, were barely faster).
1) RACE PACE (on slicks)
1) 🟧 NOR (Quickest on average, also thanks to Hards);
2) 🟧 PIA +0.33s/lap;
3) 🟥 LEC +0.45s/lap;
4) 🟦 VER +0.47s/lap;
5) 🟩 RUS +0.88s/lap.
2) TOP SPEEDS (Bottom part of image):
ANT reached 356km/h!
LewisHamilton, however, reached 358km/h in the Sprint.
VER's high-load setup made him the slowest in the speed traps (but the McL drivers, who didn't use DRS either, were barely faster).
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The Eau Rouge is probably the most extreme corner in F1: 5G of lateral acceleration PLUS 1G of vertical compression (due to the progressive increase in road slope).
The result? Around 10,000N (one tonne) on EACH outer tyre! 🛞🔥
The tyre deformation is even higher than that shown here!
📸: Jonathan Ghesquiere
The result? Around 10,000N (one tonne) on EACH outer tyre! 🛞🔥
The tyre deformation is even higher than that shown here!
📸: Jonathan Ghesquiere
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HUNGARIAN GP - WING THURSDAY:
Teams running Monaco-spec maximum downforce wings - and 🟠McLaren’s looks like a barn door! (Furthermore, the car already produces significant drag and downforce on its own.)
Possibly optimal for pace, but they’ll be sitting ducks on the straights.
Let’s see how this plays out!
📸 @AlbertFabrega
Teams running Monaco-spec maximum downforce wings - and 🟠McLaren’s looks like a barn door! (Furthermore, the car already produces significant drag and downforce on its own.)
Possibly optimal for pace, but they’ll be sitting ducks on the straights.
Let’s see how this plays out!
📸 @AlbertFabrega
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HUNGARIAN GP - PRACTICE 2
AERO CHART (Best lap on softs)
🟢 Sauber/🔵 RBR/🟢 Aston/🔴 Ferrari/🟠 McL all reached 318km/h in their best lap - downforce and the mechanical setup determined the order, not drag.
🟢 Mercedes had the lowest drag by far (+4km/h vs next best).
🟣 Alpine's only reached 314km/h, yet their downforce didn't impress.
Different engine modes could mask drag a bit: for example, NOR seems to have been running slightly more power than PIA (+2km/h, no sign of less downforce).
AERO CHART (Best lap on softs)
🟢 Sauber/🔵 RBR/🟢 Aston/🔴 Ferrari/🟠 McL all reached 318km/h in their best lap - downforce and the mechanical setup determined the order, not drag.
🟢 Mercedes had the lowest drag by far (+4km/h vs next best).
🟣 Alpine's only reached 314km/h, yet their downforce didn't impress.
Different engine modes could mask drag a bit: for example, NOR seems to have been running slightly more power than PIA (+2km/h, no sign of less downforce).
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Formula Data Analysis
HUNGARIAN GP - PRACTICE 2 AERO CHART (Best lap on softs) 🟢 Sauber/🔵 RBR/🟢 Aston/🔴 Ferrari/🟠 McL all reached 318km/h in their best lap - downforce and the mechanical setup determined the order, not drag. 🟢 Mercedes had the lowest drag by far (+4km/h vs next…
BEST SECTORS
🔴 HAM was quickest in S1 (the fastest one, which includes the 2 DRS straights). Alpine's high drag made them slowest there.
🟠 NOR was out of reach in S2 (endless series of medium-speed corners) where McL's high downforce shined.
🟠 McL 1-2 in S3, too, where PIA was quickest.
🔵 VER struggled massively in sectors 1 and 3: he was 2nd slowest in both!
🔴 HAM was quickest in S1 (the fastest one, which includes the 2 DRS straights). Alpine's high drag made them slowest there.
🟠 NOR was out of reach in S2 (endless series of medium-speed corners) where McL's high downforce shined.
🟠 McL 1-2 in S3, too, where PIA was quickest.
🔵 VER struggled massively in sectors 1 and 3: he was 2nd slowest in both!
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Formula Data Analysis
BEST SECTORS 🔴 HAM was quickest in S1 (the fastest one, which includes the 2 DRS straights). Alpine's high drag made them slowest there. 🟠 NOR was out of reach in S2 (endless series of medium-speed corners) where McL's high downforce shined. 🟠 McL 1-2 in…
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HUNGARIAN GP
📊 FP2 LONG RUNS
McL vs Ferrari: similar pace on 🟡 Mediums:
🟧 NOR quickest;
🟧 PIA +0.065s/lap;
🟥 LEC +0.082s/lap.
ALB impressed: very consistent, pace similar to the top cars!
Only HAM ran 🔴 Softs and had high deg.
ANT: 2 tenths off.
VER doesn't impress even after removing his slow laps.
What's YOUR F1 quali and race prediction? 👀
📊 FP2 LONG RUNS
McL vs Ferrari: similar pace on 🟡 Mediums:
🟧 NOR quickest;
🟧 PIA +0.065s/lap;
🟥 LEC +0.082s/lap.
ALB impressed: very consistent, pace similar to the top cars!
Only HAM ran 🔴 Softs and had high deg.
ANT: 2 tenths off.
VER doesn't impress even after removing his slow laps.
What's YOUR F1 quali and race prediction? 👀
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