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The anarcho-primitivist who wants us all to give up technology
VICE: When did you have your epiphany about all of this?
J. Zerzan: I didn’t have one epiphany. I began to see that there is an intentionality to technology. It isn’t just some neutral thing. The Industrial Revolution wasn’t just about economics. As Foucault says, it was more about imposing discipline. It started to dawn on me, maybe technology has always been that way. People are not yet thinking too much about it, but Hollywood is thinking about it. Look at Her. Look at Transcendence. These are amazing movies that just put it right on the table. You want more technology? You want to be absolutely dehumanized and humiliated? This is what it looks like.
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VICE: When did you have your epiphany about all of this?
J. Zerzan: I didn’t have one epiphany. I began to see that there is an intentionality to technology. It isn’t just some neutral thing. The Industrial Revolution wasn’t just about economics. As Foucault says, it was more about imposing discipline. It started to dawn on me, maybe technology has always been that way. People are not yet thinking too much about it, but Hollywood is thinking about it. Look at Her. Look at Transcendence. These are amazing movies that just put it right on the table. You want more technology? You want to be absolutely dehumanized and humiliated? This is what it looks like.
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VICE: Is there any way that technological advancement might turn out OK?
J. Zenzan: No. I don’t think so. The trans-humanists say that if we just have more technology, we’ll have a quantum leap and everything will be OK. We will solve all the problems. We will live forever. Well, how is that working out so far? We’re seeing the collapse of the global environment. We have these mass shootings. “We’re all connected,” they say, but we've never been more disconnected from each other in history.
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J. Zenzan: No. I don’t think so. The trans-humanists say that if we just have more technology, we’ll have a quantum leap and everything will be OK. We will solve all the problems. We will live forever. Well, how is that working out so far? We’re seeing the collapse of the global environment. We have these mass shootings. “We’re all connected,” they say, but we've never been more disconnected from each other in history.
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VICE: So, if civilization does collapse, what do you think the re-wilding process will look like?
J. Zerzan: That’s the number one question. How are we going to live? We’re so de-skilled, how do we reskill? Even something as far back as making stone tools, knowing what plants are edible. I mean, how anxious will you be to pull down civilization if you don’t know how to live without it? So, we have to start getting those skills.
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J. Zerzan: That’s the number one question. How are we going to live? We’re so de-skilled, how do we reskill? Even something as far back as making stone tools, knowing what plants are edible. I mean, how anxious will you be to pull down civilization if you don’t know how to live without it? So, we have to start getting those skills.
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VICE: And maybe it’s not just learning long-forgotten skills, but also learning to forget. Will we forget what stars are, for example? In the past, people would look up and they wouldn’t know what they were, and it wasn’t so much an absence of knowledge, but a presence of mystery.
J. Zerzan: Right, why do people need to know those things? What’s the instrumentality? I would contend that it’s not ignorance. It’s actually the opposite of ignorance. The hunter-gatherer people could see a bent blade of grass and tell you eight things about what it meant. Is that not science?
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J. Zerzan: Right, why do people need to know those things? What’s the instrumentality? I would contend that it’s not ignorance. It’s actually the opposite of ignorance. The hunter-gatherer people could see a bent blade of grass and tell you eight things about what it meant. Is that not science?
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VICE: The lack of information also allows the individual to project themselves into that absence. There’s a creativity to giving one’s own personal meaning to things rather than having the meaning imposed from without.
J. Zerzan: That really hits the nail on the head. Here’s a real quick little story. Some of us were gathering up in Olympia at an anarchist workshop and we overheard these people say, “Man, these primitivists are crazier than we thought. One of them was saying that Earth is flat.” What [the primitivist had] really said was that if you live in band society of 60 people, it doesn’t matter if Earth is round or flat. We look at this marvelous photograph of Earth taken from the moon. Here we are on this fragile little globe, but what did it take to get that picture? What kind of massive industrialization project did it take in order to have that one lovely picture?
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J. Zerzan: That really hits the nail on the head. Here’s a real quick little story. Some of us were gathering up in Olympia at an anarchist workshop and we overheard these people say, “Man, these primitivists are crazier than we thought. One of them was saying that Earth is flat.” What [the primitivist had] really said was that if you live in band society of 60 people, it doesn’t matter if Earth is round or flat. We look at this marvelous photograph of Earth taken from the moon. Here we are on this fragile little globe, but what did it take to get that picture? What kind of massive industrialization project did it take in order to have that one lovely picture?
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VICE: The price was just too high?
J. Zerzan: Right. I have this friend in Detroit who always used to say, “You want to keep all of this nice technology? Great. So, do you want to go down in the mines and get the metal for it? Is there anybody who wants to be in a smelter?” I wouldn’t do it if somebody put a gun to my head. So, who’s going to do it? Are the trans-humanists going to do it? You have this wage slavery of millions of people who are risking their lives to make it possible for them to have their crazy trans-humanist fantasies.
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J. Zerzan: Right. I have this friend in Detroit who always used to say, “You want to keep all of this nice technology? Great. So, do you want to go down in the mines and get the metal for it? Is there anybody who wants to be in a smelter?” I wouldn’t do it if somebody put a gun to my head. So, who’s going to do it? Are the trans-humanists going to do it? You have this wage slavery of millions of people who are risking their lives to make it possible for them to have their crazy trans-humanist fantasies.
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🇧🇷 Para quem não fala inglês: Lembrando que o Telegram agora tem uma função de tradução nativa, usem!
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Forwarded from @absurdismo
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Depois disso, bastará dar um clica na postagem e escolher a opção Traduzir
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Memetic Sect From the Mountains ⛰
Ted Kaczynski was diagnosed with terminal cancer.
🇧🇷: Ted Kaczynski foi diagnosticado com câncer terminal.
Tradução da carta acima, que ele enviou a um anônimo:
"Querido senhor <censurado>,
Obrigado pela sua carinhosa carta enviada em 21 de dezembro de 2021, que me foi entregue em 27 de janeiro de 2022. Você finalizou sua carta com "Espero que melhore logo. Ainda há trabalho para ser feito."
Você está certo. Há trabalho para ser feito. Bastante trabalho. Na verdade, o trabalho apenas começou. Mas eu não vou ser capaz de ajudar muito com ele. Eu não vou "melhorar logo" - nem em qualquer momento - pois eu estou com câncer terminal. Eu não poderia viver mais do que dois anos aí fora, e provavelmente eu vou estar morto em menos de um ano, então o trabalho precisará ser feito por vocês, mais jovens. Mas e você? O que você está fazendo? Me disseram que você me encomendou um dicionário de francês e inglês, pelos quais eu te agradeço. Mas se referindo aos desafios que enfrentamos, o problema com o dicionário é ínfimo. Você vem seguindo as recomendações das seções 28 e 29 do Capítulo Quatro do Revolução Anti-Tecnológica? Conseguiu fazer algum progresso em organização, de acordo com a Regra (III) do Capítulo Três? Se você quiser organizar mas não souber por onde começar, me deixe saber, que eu poderei te fornecer algumas sugestões. Contudo as minhas sugestões não serão fáceis de serem seguidas. Nós não queremosmorrer amadores que só estejam prontos para fazer o que é fácil. Precisamos de pessoas que sejam capazes de comprometimento total e que estejam preparadadas para qualquer tarefa, não importando o quão díficil, desagradável ou demorada que ela possa ser.
Para sua Natureza Selvagem, Ted Kaczynski."
Tradução da carta acima, que ele enviou a um anônimo:
"Querido senhor <censurado>,
Obrigado pela sua carinhosa carta enviada em 21 de dezembro de 2021, que me foi entregue em 27 de janeiro de 2022. Você finalizou sua carta com "Espero que melhore logo. Ainda há trabalho para ser feito."
Você está certo. Há trabalho para ser feito. Bastante trabalho. Na verdade, o trabalho apenas começou. Mas eu não vou ser capaz de ajudar muito com ele. Eu não vou "melhorar logo" - nem em qualquer momento - pois eu estou com câncer terminal. Eu não poderia viver mais do que dois anos aí fora, e provavelmente eu vou estar morto em menos de um ano, então o trabalho precisará ser feito por vocês, mais jovens. Mas e você? O que você está fazendo? Me disseram que você me encomendou um dicionário de francês e inglês, pelos quais eu te agradeço. Mas se referindo aos desafios que enfrentamos, o problema com o dicionário é ínfimo. Você vem seguindo as recomendações das seções 28 e 29 do Capítulo Quatro do Revolução Anti-Tecnológica? Conseguiu fazer algum progresso em organização, de acordo com a Regra (III) do Capítulo Três? Se você quiser organizar mas não souber por onde começar, me deixe saber, que eu poderei te fornecer algumas sugestões. Contudo as minhas sugestões não serão fáceis de serem seguidas. Nós não queremos
Para sua Natureza Selvagem, Ted Kaczynski."
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Forwarded from 𝗔𝗿𝘆𝗮𝗻 𝗘𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘀 (Raw 🥛)
“Freedom means being in control (either as an individual or as a member of a SMALL group) of the life-and-death issues of one's existence; food, clothing, shelter and defense against whatever threats there may be in one's environment. Freedom means having power; not the power to control other people but the power to control the circumstances of one's own life.”
-Theodore J. Kaczynski, Industrial Society and its Future.
-Theodore J. Kaczynski, Industrial Society and its Future.
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🇧🇷⚖Σ — Brazilian Federal Court suspended all International warrants against the Integralist Militant Eduardo Fauzi, accused of bombing Nextflix studios over a "Gay Jesus movie" and who was arrested by 🇺🇳 Interpol in 🇷🇺 Russia, where he asked for asylum.