Breivik Death Sentence Part 3
Philip Manshaus (22) has been sentenced to detention for 21 years with a minimum term of 14 years after killing his stepsister Johanne Ihle-Hansen, before he went to the Al-Noor mosque on 10 August 2019. He is also sentenced to pay compensation to the next of kin https://perma.cc/HWX8-VS45
So this dude got the SAME sentence like Breivik! NO SENSE! even if he killed much less people. Don't forget suicide in Breivik case ... https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/586
5: how Breivik got the sentence is just ridiculous
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/646
to
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/651
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/341
to
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/346
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/458
and we don't need to forget how he acted
https://news.1rj.ru/str/DefenceTelegram/384
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/255
etc.
6: related to 4-5
«I en slik vurdering må det tillegges vekt at særlig kvalifiserte tilfeller av finansiering av terrorhandling også vil kunne bli ansett som medvirkning til selve handlingen med en høyere strafferamme på 21 år.»
"In such an assessment, weight must be added to the fact that particularly qualified cases of financing a terrorist act will also be considered complicity in the act itself with a higher penalty of 21 years."
Dreier det seg ikke bare om rene finansieringshandlinger, men om medvirkning til terrorisme, kommer § 147 a med en strafferamme på inntil 21 års fengsel til anvendelse. Paragraf 147 b vil ikke kunne anvendes i konkurrens med § 147 a.
If it is not just about purely financing actions, but about complicity in terrorism, Section 147 a with a penalty of up to 21 years' imprisonment is applied. Paragraph 147 b will not be able to be used in competition with § 147 a. https://perma.cc/2X5W-27PS
Philip Manshaus (22) has been sentenced to detention for 21 years with a minimum term of 14 years after killing his stepsister Johanne Ihle-Hansen, before he went to the Al-Noor mosque on 10 August 2019. He is also sentenced to pay compensation to the next of kin https://perma.cc/HWX8-VS45
So this dude got the SAME sentence like Breivik! NO SENSE! even if he killed much less people. Don't forget suicide in Breivik case ... https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/586
5: how Breivik got the sentence is just ridiculous
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/646
to
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/651
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/341
to
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/346
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/458
and we don't need to forget how he acted
https://news.1rj.ru/str/DefenceTelegram/384
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/255
etc.
6: related to 4-5
«I en slik vurdering må det tillegges vekt at særlig kvalifiserte tilfeller av finansiering av terrorhandling også vil kunne bli ansett som medvirkning til selve handlingen med en høyere strafferamme på 21 år.»
"In such an assessment, weight must be added to the fact that particularly qualified cases of financing a terrorist act will also be considered complicity in the act itself with a higher penalty of 21 years."
Dreier det seg ikke bare om rene finansieringshandlinger, men om medvirkning til terrorisme, kommer § 147 a med en strafferamme på inntil 21 års fengsel til anvendelse. Paragraf 147 b vil ikke kunne anvendes i konkurrens med § 147 a.
If it is not just about purely financing actions, but about complicity in terrorism, Section 147 a with a penalty of up to 21 years' imprisonment is applied. Paragraph 147 b will not be able to be used in competition with § 147 a. https://perma.cc/2X5W-27PS
Breivik Death Sentence Part 4
Etter straffeloven 2005 § 138 straffes terrorbombing med fengsel inntil 21 år, mens § 139 omhandler kapring av luftfartøy og skip. Gisseltaking i terrorøyemed straffes etter § 143 med fengsel inntil 12 år, mens straff for angrep på en internasjonalt beskyttet person, bl.a. statsoverholde, regjeringssjef og utenriksminister etter § 144, er 21 år.
According to the Penal Code 2005 § 138, terrorist bombing is punished with imprisonment of up to 21 years, while § 139 deals with the hijacking of aircraft and ships. Taking hostages for the purpose of terrorism is punishable under § 143 with imprisonment of up to 12 years, while the punishment for an attack on an internationally protected person, i.a. state official, head of government and foreign minister according to Section 144, is 21 years old https://perma.cc/R7TM-YJUG
Straffen er fengsel inntil 21 år. Grov terrorhandling straffes med fengsel inntil 30 år.
The penalty is imprisonment for up to 21 years. Serious acts of terrorism are punishable by imprisonment for up to 30 years.
https://news.1rj.ru/str/DefenceTelegram/470
Grov terrorhandling straffes med fengsel inntil 30 år.3 Ved avgjørelsen av om terrorhandlingen er grov, skal det særlig legges vekt på om den
a. har medført tap av flere menneskeliv eller svært omfattende ødeleggelse av eiendom eller miljø, eller særlig nærliggende fare for det,5
b. er utført med særlig skadelige midler,
c. er begått av en person som i kraft av sin stilling nyter en særlig tillit som kan utnyttes til å gjennomføre en terrorhandling.
A serious act of terrorism is punishable by imprisonment for up to 30 years.3 When deciding whether the act of terrorism is serious, particular emphasis must be placed on whether it
a. has resulted in the loss of several human lives or very extensive destruction of property or the environment, or a particularly imminent danger of this,5
b. is carried out with particularly harmful means,
Etter straffeloven 2005 § 138 straffes terrorbombing med fengsel inntil 21 år, mens § 139 omhandler kapring av luftfartøy og skip. Gisseltaking i terrorøyemed straffes etter § 143 med fengsel inntil 12 år, mens straff for angrep på en internasjonalt beskyttet person, bl.a. statsoverholde, regjeringssjef og utenriksminister etter § 144, er 21 år.
According to the Penal Code 2005 § 138, terrorist bombing is punished with imprisonment of up to 21 years, while § 139 deals with the hijacking of aircraft and ships. Taking hostages for the purpose of terrorism is punishable under § 143 with imprisonment of up to 12 years, while the punishment for an attack on an internationally protected person, i.a. state official, head of government and foreign minister according to Section 144, is 21 years old https://perma.cc/R7TM-YJUG
Straffen er fengsel inntil 21 år. Grov terrorhandling straffes med fengsel inntil 30 år.
The penalty is imprisonment for up to 21 years. Serious acts of terrorism are punishable by imprisonment for up to 30 years.
https://news.1rj.ru/str/DefenceTelegram/470
Grov terrorhandling straffes med fengsel inntil 30 år.3 Ved avgjørelsen av om terrorhandlingen er grov, skal det særlig legges vekt på om den
a. har medført tap av flere menneskeliv eller svært omfattende ødeleggelse av eiendom eller miljø, eller særlig nærliggende fare for det,5
b. er utført med særlig skadelige midler,
c. er begått av en person som i kraft av sin stilling nyter en særlig tillit som kan utnyttes til å gjennomføre en terrorhandling.
A serious act of terrorism is punishable by imprisonment for up to 30 years.3 When deciding whether the act of terrorism is serious, particular emphasis must be placed on whether it
a. has resulted in the loss of several human lives or very extensive destruction of property or the environment, or a particularly imminent danger of this,5
b. is carried out with particularly harmful means,
Breivik Death Sentence Part 5
Part 1 https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/658
A serious act of terrorism is punishable by imprisonment for up to 30 years:
c. is committed by a person who, by virtue of his position, enjoys a special trust which can be used to carry out a terrorist act https://perma.cc/UV3H-3AE3
So in conclusion: yes, is an huge complex story, BUT not for the type of the crime he did, more because it's complex to understand all reasons behind that ...
The crime he did was pretty easy to sentence, but since our laws make things complicate, all that got complicate.
When in reality is pretty easy, once you have enough proof and the sum of crimes done are enough to put a dude in prison for life / death ...
There are stories much more complex ... For sure 11 September was more complex, even because it was not just one dude.
Last point, between all terrorists, Breivik made the record of number of pages written ...
in few words:
Kriminalomsorgen i Norge er ikke rigget for en innsatt av Anders Behring Breiviks kaliber.
The correctional system in Norway is not equipped for an inmate of Anders Behring Breivik's caliber.
and this is the case for 2023 too!
Et stort flertall av oss er trolig av den oppfatning at Breivik hadde fortjent en strengere straff enn den han fikk. Vi har ikke dødsstraff i Norge. Vi har heller ikke livsvarig fengsel uten mulighet for løslatelse. I stedet har vi forvaring.
A large majority of us are probably of the opinion that Breivik deserved a harsher punishment than the one he received. We do not have the death penalty in Norway. Nor do we have life imprisonment without the possibility of release. Instead, we have custody https://perma.cc/G7QG-U3ZZ
Breiviks advokat har etter min mening et likevel et poeng når han peker på at behandlingen av Breivik skiller seg markant fra behandlingen av alle andre innsatte på forvaring, i og med at han har vært og er underlagt et regime som har ligget fast hele tiden.
Part 1 https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/658
A serious act of terrorism is punishable by imprisonment for up to 30 years:
c. is committed by a person who, by virtue of his position, enjoys a special trust which can be used to carry out a terrorist act https://perma.cc/UV3H-3AE3
So in conclusion: yes, is an huge complex story, BUT not for the type of the crime he did, more because it's complex to understand all reasons behind that ...
The crime he did was pretty easy to sentence, but since our laws make things complicate, all that got complicate.
When in reality is pretty easy, once you have enough proof and the sum of crimes done are enough to put a dude in prison for life / death ...
There are stories much more complex ... For sure 11 September was more complex, even because it was not just one dude.
Last point, between all terrorists, Breivik made the record of number of pages written ...
in few words:
Kriminalomsorgen i Norge er ikke rigget for en innsatt av Anders Behring Breiviks kaliber.
The correctional system in Norway is not equipped for an inmate of Anders Behring Breivik's caliber.
and this is the case for 2023 too!
Et stort flertall av oss er trolig av den oppfatning at Breivik hadde fortjent en strengere straff enn den han fikk. Vi har ikke dødsstraff i Norge. Vi har heller ikke livsvarig fengsel uten mulighet for løslatelse. I stedet har vi forvaring.
A large majority of us are probably of the opinion that Breivik deserved a harsher punishment than the one he received. We do not have the death penalty in Norway. Nor do we have life imprisonment without the possibility of release. Instead, we have custody https://perma.cc/G7QG-U3ZZ
Breiviks advokat har etter min mening et likevel et poeng når han peker på at behandlingen av Breivik skiller seg markant fra behandlingen av alle andre innsatte på forvaring, i og med at han har vært og er underlagt et regime som har ligget fast hele tiden.
Breivik Death Sentence Part 6
Part 1 https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/658
Han tilbringer omtrent all sin tid i isolasjon på sitt område i fengselet og har minimal kontakt med andre mennesker enn dem som er ansatt for å ivareta ham. Da har han også få impulser til å forandre seg.
In my opinion (journalist), Breivik's lawyer still has a point when he points out that the treatment of Breivik differs markedly from the treatment of all other inmates in custody, in that he has been and is subject to a regime that has been in place all along. He spends almost all of his time in isolation in his area of the prison and has minimal contact with people other than those employed to look after him. Then he also has few impulses to change.
Det er lett å tenke at det har han godt av. Det tenker jeg også. Breivik fortjener ikke vår medfølelse. Men retten kan ikke tenke sånn. Hevn er ikke en følelse som anerkjennes av norsk lov.
It is easy to think that he benefits from that. I think so too. Breivik does not deserve our sympathy. But the court cannot think like that. Revenge is not an emotion recognized by Norwegian law.
Han risikerer å bli angrepet av andre innsatte dersom han ikke isoleres. Det er også en fare for at han kan påvirke andre innsatte til å bli politisk ekstreme. Det er også derfor det er nødvendig å begrense hvem han kan kommunisere med utenfor murene.
He risks being attacked by other inmates if he is not isolated. There is also a danger that he may influence other inmates to become politically extreme. This is also why it is necessary to limit who he can communicate with outside the walls https://perma.cc/G7QG-U3ZZ
without talking about the parole story ....
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/459
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/469
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/475
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/546
to
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/549
💡 Breivik request (2. person)
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/617
So we need to change, not just in Norway, but everywhere! because currently our laws are just a joke!
Part 1 https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/658
Han tilbringer omtrent all sin tid i isolasjon på sitt område i fengselet og har minimal kontakt med andre mennesker enn dem som er ansatt for å ivareta ham. Da har han også få impulser til å forandre seg.
In my opinion (journalist), Breivik's lawyer still has a point when he points out that the treatment of Breivik differs markedly from the treatment of all other inmates in custody, in that he has been and is subject to a regime that has been in place all along. He spends almost all of his time in isolation in his area of the prison and has minimal contact with people other than those employed to look after him. Then he also has few impulses to change.
Det er lett å tenke at det har han godt av. Det tenker jeg også. Breivik fortjener ikke vår medfølelse. Men retten kan ikke tenke sånn. Hevn er ikke en følelse som anerkjennes av norsk lov.
It is easy to think that he benefits from that. I think so too. Breivik does not deserve our sympathy. But the court cannot think like that. Revenge is not an emotion recognized by Norwegian law.
Han risikerer å bli angrepet av andre innsatte dersom han ikke isoleres. Det er også en fare for at han kan påvirke andre innsatte til å bli politisk ekstreme. Det er også derfor det er nødvendig å begrense hvem han kan kommunisere med utenfor murene.
He risks being attacked by other inmates if he is not isolated. There is also a danger that he may influence other inmates to become politically extreme. This is also why it is necessary to limit who he can communicate with outside the walls https://perma.cc/G7QG-U3ZZ
without talking about the parole story ....
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/459
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/469
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/475
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/546
to
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/549
💡 Breivik request (2. person)
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/617
So we need to change, not just in Norway, but everywhere! because currently our laws are just a joke!
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For those that already forgot Mohammed Atta ... another interesting story showing exactly what we wrote previously.
You will never know a person 100%
https://news.1rj.ru/str/WomenRightsTelegram/570
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/544
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/564
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/566
Both Breivik and Atta invested tons of time in education "by manipulating" people to be able to commit their planes
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You will never know a person 100%
https://news.1rj.ru/str/WomenRightsTelegram/570
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/544
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/564
https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/566
Both Breivik and Atta invested tons of time in education "by manipulating" people to be able to commit their planes
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Remember, EVERYONE SHOULD be CONTROLLED!
Exactly like here is happening, but obviously this should not be just limited to prison or similar
https://news.1rj.ru/str/DefenceTelegram/431
If a general security check is available, but VIP can still get access without control ...
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Exactly like here is happening, but obviously this should not be just limited to prison or similar
https://news.1rj.ru/str/DefenceTelegram/431
If a general security check is available, but VIP can still get access without control ...
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Hitler gesture is an hate against 🇮🇱? Part 1
Hilsenen var ikke den samme som Breivik utførte en rekke ganger under 22. juli-saken for fire år siden, men en ny armbevegelse, som til forveksling ligner på nazihilsenen som ble brukt av Hitler og hans tilhengere.
The salute was not the same one that Breivik performed a number of times during the July 22 case four years ago, but a new arm movement, which is confusingly similar to the Nazi salute used by Hitler and his followers https://perma.cc/FMV5-GU3Z
Jeg kan ikke kommentere innholdet i mine samtaler med Breivik. Men nasjonalsosialismen har vært et sentralt tema i mange av brevene han har sendt. Når det gjelder hilsenen, synes jeg det var ganske tydelig hva det var, sier Storrvik til NTB.
I cannot comment on the content of my conversations with Breivik. But National Socialism has been a central theme in many of the letters he has sent. As for the greeting, I think it was quite clear what it was, says Storrvik to NTB.
En nazistisk hilsen hører ikke hjemme i en norsk rettssal hadde Storrvik poengtert overfor Breivik. Advokaten vendte seg bort fra Breivik idet hilsningsgesten ble utført.
A Nazi salute does not belong in a Norwegian courtroom, Storrvik had pointed out to Breivik. The lawyer turned away from Breivik as the greeting gesture was made.
42-åringen holder opp plakater med ordlyden «Stop your genocide against our white nations». Slike plakater er også festet til PC-veska hans. Han gjør en nazihilsen, og tar et spørsmål fra media. Svaret er en politisk agitasjon.
The 42-year-old holds up posters with the words "Stop your genocide against our white nations". Such posters are also attached to his computer bag. He does a Nazi salute, and takes a question from the media. The answer is a political agitation https://perma.cc/HYB6-R326
Hilsenen var ikke den samme som Breivik utførte en rekke ganger under 22. juli-saken for fire år siden, men en ny armbevegelse, som til forveksling ligner på nazihilsenen som ble brukt av Hitler og hans tilhengere.
The salute was not the same one that Breivik performed a number of times during the July 22 case four years ago, but a new arm movement, which is confusingly similar to the Nazi salute used by Hitler and his followers https://perma.cc/FMV5-GU3Z
Jeg kan ikke kommentere innholdet i mine samtaler med Breivik. Men nasjonalsosialismen har vært et sentralt tema i mange av brevene han har sendt. Når det gjelder hilsenen, synes jeg det var ganske tydelig hva det var, sier Storrvik til NTB.
I cannot comment on the content of my conversations with Breivik. But National Socialism has been a central theme in many of the letters he has sent. As for the greeting, I think it was quite clear what it was, says Storrvik to NTB.
En nazistisk hilsen hører ikke hjemme i en norsk rettssal hadde Storrvik poengtert overfor Breivik. Advokaten vendte seg bort fra Breivik idet hilsningsgesten ble utført.
A Nazi salute does not belong in a Norwegian courtroom, Storrvik had pointed out to Breivik. The lawyer turned away from Breivik as the greeting gesture was made.
42-åringen holder opp plakater med ordlyden «Stop your genocide against our white nations». Slike plakater er også festet til PC-veska hans. Han gjør en nazihilsen, og tar et spørsmål fra media. Svaret er en politisk agitasjon.
The 42-year-old holds up posters with the words "Stop your genocide against our white nations". Such posters are also attached to his computer bag. He does a Nazi salute, and takes a question from the media. The answer is a political agitation https://perma.cc/HYB6-R326
Hitler gesture is an hate against 🇮🇱? Part 2
Part 1 https://news.1rj.ru/str/TerrorismTelegram/666
I forkant av Breiviks ankomst i rettssalen, sa Verøy at dersom Breivik har lært, så ville han ikke gjøre nazihilsen. Dette fordi det vil tale direkte imot hans ønske om å prøveløslates.
Ahead of Breivik's arrival in the courtroom, Verøy said that if Breivik had learned, he would not do the Nazi salute. This is because it will speak directly against his wish to be paroled https://perma.cc/9WTQ-Y6H3
Breivik: "I believe Europe should strive for: A cultural conservative approach where monoculturalism, moral, the nuclear family, a free market, support for Israel and our Christian cousins of the east, law and order and Christendom itself must be central aspects (unlike now) ..."
I support the continued consolidation of non-Muslim Europe and an unconditional support to all Christian countries and societies (Israel included), in addition to continuing our good relationships with all Hindu and Buddhist countries.
Forut for terrorhandlingene 22. juli 2011 utviste Breivik en eksepsjonell evne til å handle og opptre fordekt. Selv ikke hans egen mor merket noen endring i ham, selv bare dager før han begikk «den verste volds- og terrorhandling i norsk kriminalhistorie», poengterte regjeringsadvokaten.
Prior to the terrorist acts on 22 July 2011, Breivik displayed an exceptional ability to act and act undercover. Not even his own mother noticed any change in him, even just days before he committed "the worst act of violence and terrorism in Norwegian criminal history", pointed out the government attorney https://perma.cc/4V7F-7P8D
It is mainly letters with far-right content to fellow opinion-leaders Anders Behring Breivik did not know before 22 July 2011 that are stopped by the prison
Dommer Øystein Hermansen ba Breivik om å ikke gjenta nazihilsenen.
Judge Øystein Hermansen asked Breivik not to repeat the Nazi salute.
Means the answer is BULLSHIT! showed with Breivik story
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Breivik "Og det samme skjedde når det sveitsiske folk stemte mot minaretforbud for noen år siden"
And the same thing happened when the Swiss people voted against the minaret ban a few years ago.
we are Swiss, but we have no idea about such ban ...
Let we check that
Volksinitiative vom 08.07.2008 'Gegen den Bau von Minaretten'
✅ 57.5% https://perma.cc/23Z6-2QZB
Die Volksabstimmung wurde am 29. November 2009 abgehalten. 57,5% der Wähler
sowie 17 Kantone und fünf Halbkantone unterstützten die Initiative; folglich war der
Verfassungszusatz angenommen. Artikel 72 Absatz 3 (neu) der Verfassung lautet: „Der Bau von Minaretten ist verboten.“ https://perma.cc/DV6C-DVAU
The people’s initiative was accepted by 57.5% of Swiss voters, even though most politicians, church leaders and Islamic organisations inside and outside Switzerland were against it https://perma.cc/4ZYH-XGB3
A decade after the decision, the number of Muslims in Switzerland continues to grow, while the building of mosques – minus minarets – has continued in some cantons.
Breivik: A couple of questions, which are perhaps the most important in our time, and which all journalists, parliamentary politicians and academics should ask themselves, are the following: Do you think it is undemocratic that ... have never been asked through a referendum whether they accepted that ... became ...? Is it democratic to do this without asking people ...
No matter what, in a democratic country is correct that the population does the decision and not just politicians ... so both ideas are important. What showed this vote? That the population not always agree with what politicians are saying, and this happens not just related to Islam, but everything ... Again this example is about Islam, but let we put this now on a general point of view ...
This is exactly what we said previously too. Decisions are made WITHOUT asking the population!
Does this reduce the risk of terrorism or whatever? Nope, since Islam is still here and terrorism is not just made by Islam ...
And the same thing happened when the Swiss people voted against the minaret ban a few years ago.
we are Swiss, but we have no idea about such ban ...
Let we check that
Volksinitiative vom 08.07.2008 'Gegen den Bau von Minaretten'
✅ 57.5% https://perma.cc/23Z6-2QZB
Die Volksabstimmung wurde am 29. November 2009 abgehalten. 57,5% der Wähler
sowie 17 Kantone und fünf Halbkantone unterstützten die Initiative; folglich war der
Verfassungszusatz angenommen. Artikel 72 Absatz 3 (neu) der Verfassung lautet: „Der Bau von Minaretten ist verboten.“ https://perma.cc/DV6C-DVAU
The people’s initiative was accepted by 57.5% of Swiss voters, even though most politicians, church leaders and Islamic organisations inside and outside Switzerland were against it https://perma.cc/4ZYH-XGB3
A decade after the decision, the number of Muslims in Switzerland continues to grow, while the building of mosques – minus minarets – has continued in some cantons.
Breivik: A couple of questions, which are perhaps the most important in our time, and which all journalists, parliamentary politicians and academics should ask themselves, are the following: Do you think it is undemocratic that ... have never been asked through a referendum whether they accepted that ... became ...? Is it democratic to do this without asking people ...
No matter what, in a democratic country is correct that the population does the decision and not just politicians ... so both ideas are important. What showed this vote? That the population not always agree with what politicians are saying, and this happens not just related to Islam, but everything ... Again this example is about Islam, but let we put this now on a general point of view ...
This is exactly what we said previously too. Decisions are made WITHOUT asking the population!
Does this reduce the risk of terrorism or whatever? Nope, since Islam is still here and terrorism is not just made by Islam ...
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Related to the previous post. Just to be clear. Is nothing against Islam.
We in Europe complain about the ⛪️ 🔔 too!
Especially if you don't live in city they are so loud, that is impossible to sleep properly ... getting worse if you live near the ⛪️.
but obviously people have different opinion about that ... like always. Especially people not living in cities are pro 🔔, while other are against 🔔 .
The best? It's not just 10 second, but 5 MINUTES! and during the weekend even worst. 1000x 🔔 one after the other ...
So again there is a difference between🔔🔔🔔 and "🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔 1 minute pause and then again 🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔 "....
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We in Europe complain about the ⛪️ 🔔 too!
Especially if you don't live in city they are so loud, that is impossible to sleep properly ... getting worse if you live near the ⛪️.
but obviously people have different opinion about that ... like always. Especially people not living in cities are pro 🔔, while other are against 🔔 .
The best? It's not just 10 second, but 5 MINUTES! and during the weekend even worst. 1000x 🔔 one after the other ...
So again there is a difference between🔔🔔🔔 and "🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔 1 minute pause and then again 🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔 "....
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A @grttme project - Other backups: https://swiy.co/tgme