The way Lily stole the Salvatore Mansion was actually diabolical. So much drama could have been avoided if they picked literally any other house!

She ditched her sons, which I do understand she was in a bad situation but left them there and didn’t look back. Then Damon actually rescues her rude ass and she’s not even slightly grateful. Doesn’t give one fart about Stefan. Still gets all her little precious heretics back. Then has the audacity to say that the Salvatore Mansion is somehow HERS! And kicks them out.

Then rudely says they kept it a pigsty! When it was kept in pristine condition and Damon was hilariously constantly cleaning.

Then to top it all off, LILY WAS FUCKING HER MAN IN DAMONS BED!!!!!!! I’m sorry but I would have had to drop a nuke from orbit on the house after that. That would have sent me over the edge.

They could have moved literally anywhere. Why not the old Original mansion they were using a few seasons prior and there wouldn’t have been any issues. But noooo had to start drama for no damn reason 😭

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I’m new to this fandom, when was the last time Ian, Paul & Nina were all together?

I know Ian did Nina dirty during their relationship, but I thought I read somewhere they were friends after that? But noticed she doesn’t follow him on IG and they never do public appearances etc

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Prison Worlds

I absolutely love the Prison Worlds spell. They whole idea of them.

I did realise though that since they reset everyday, it'd be a free constant resource for food and petrol and such, right?

Or have I forgotten a detail?

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How do y'all define Chemistry?
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Do you think Stefan & Elena still loved each other more than anything deep down?

Obviously we know their fates, but I just can’t wrap my head around them not ending up with each other. Part of me thinks that deep down they both know they were soulmates even after everything

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I have problems with Damon and Bonnie’s friendship.

Only because I don’t like Damon and because it’s a Damon centered relationship once again. Many people say Bonnie helped Damon changed/kept him in check but imo Bonnie sometimes enabled Damon and made excuses. And if you know early Bonnie wouldn’t have done that . Bamons friendship is mostly to serve Damon’s story not Bonnie’s and that’s what I don’t like at all and it’s not just with Bonnie .

Every friendship or romantic relationship or relationships in general that comes in contact with Damon becomes Damon centered and those characters losses their characteristics and morals. (meaning they lose their already established traits ) just to prop up Damon and be his support/ enabler because the writers still wanted Damon to be good and bad. So they reduce characters to fit him and have them at times make him good and other times have them excusing and enabling his reckless behavior letting him stay bad and it’s frustrating because you can’t have it both ways. It was either Damon actually change for the better or they keep him bad because now it frustrating and obvious for the viewers to see some of their favorite characters change in order to fit Damon in a bad way ,when their characterization was already set from the beginning.

Do you feel that all of Damon relationships in general are Damon centric?. If you do how does that make you feel.

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Stelena to Delena to Stelena was a bad idea.

Hot take but planning a Stelena to Delena to Stelena route when Nina was struggling with her pay was a dumb idea. Not to mention, people have openly stated that if this original plan happened, Stefan would have looked like an absolute fool to take back Elena after what she did to him with his brother.

So whether it was the planned Stelena Endgame or the forced Delena one we got, neither looked good nor was satisfying in the end.

Personally, they should have kept Stelena all the way though and Damon eventually giving up and moving on. It would have been better and healthy for everyone.

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Damon remains in love with Elena and she’s his priority even if she doesn’t love him back. Stefan’s priority and love exist only when Elena loves him back

I think this is one of the reasons Damon appeals to fans more than Stefan.

Damon will still be In love with Elena and put her safety above anything no matter what she does. Even if she was to choose Stefan. He would be hurt but it wouldn’t take away his love.

Stefan will only be in love with Elena if she chooses him. If she doesn't he’ll get angry and won’t put her safety as a priority.

Damon’s love is unconditional

Stefan’s love is conditional

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Kevin Williamson VS Julie Plec & Caroline Dries as TVD Writers

Hopefully this will make sense...

- Kevin Williamson: Stelena Fan
- Julie Plec & Caroline Dries: Delena Fans
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- If Kevin Williamson hadn't left TVD then Stelena was actually going to be endgame but since he left after S3 and Julie Plec & Caroline Dries took over Stelena was never going to be endgame because they had Seasons 4-6 to go back to Stelena and also knew that Nina was leaving... Once KW had left JP & CD just wrote like Delena fangirls because they loved Ian so much and forced Delena in S4-S6
- Certain Stelena fans don't believe me when I tell this to them 👆
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- Then there's the Delena fans who say: "Oh Stelena was never going to be endgame" "All the writers wanted Delena as endgame" which isn't true because KW is a Stelena fan... I've tried telling Delena fans how forced Delena was in TVD but they keep denying it... Once Elena had chosen Stefen in the S3 final that should have been it for them... No more back & fourth really
- Delena fans don't believe me when I tell them this 👆
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- Then there's the TVD fans who've read the (I Was Feeling Epic Book)
- I don't believe this book when it says that Stelena was going to be endgame because like I said above writers had plenty of time to do this but didn't
- Idk how anyone COULD believe this book with how JP & CD handled TVD
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It's funny how both Stelena & Delena fans deny everything I try to tell them about the ending of TVD... I'm genuinely just giving out this info to be helpful 🤷‍♀️
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Quick Question:
- KW has worked with JP & CD many times and saw how they ruined TVD... Is he still friends with them? No offense but I wouldn't after how JP & CD destroyed everything good KW had in the early season plus how they retconned almost all of Delenas relationship from Stelena.
- I know this is a random question but I'm just curious 🙂
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- Also, the more I see Delena scenes the worse it gets for me... Literally 0 chemistry and not because I'm a Stelena fan but because Paul & Nina have better chemistry
- The more I see Damon & Bonnie scenes... Now were talking! Ian & Kat also have great chemistry and I can now see why all you Bamon shippers ship them 😊
- People say that Paul & Candice have chemistry as Stefen & Caroline but they really don't... They're relationship is so off and weird to me and doesn't make sense
- All I'm saying is that Kevin Williamson knows how to cast actors who have great chemistry... Hence why he hired Paul & Nina for their roles as Stefen & Elena
- I've seen some comments out there that Paul & Nina have 0 chemistry but they're lying or just don't know what chemistry is 🙄
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Anyways... I know everyone's gonna come after me for this 😂

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At the series finale!

My first run through is about to be done. I’m up to the series finale and i feel so many emotions about finishing the series. Excited. Nervous. Sad. Happy. I was going to save the finale for tomorrow night but I’m just too invested and will stay up late to finish it.

I mean, the last two seasons have been quite off par but it’s still the end of the journey (or the beginning if we take into account The originals and the legacies). I know I’ll rewatch the show one day (and likely skip season 7 & 8). But there’s something emotional about watching the end for the first time!

Anyway; just wanted to share it with someone who’ll understand this pre - finale feeling!

UPDATE: I’m going to need Atleast 3 work days to process my emotions after that🥹😩🥲😭😭😭😭

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Should I watch the originals?

This may be a stupid question but I’ve watched TVD about 5 times now, I just recently finished it. I thought it would be good to go ahead and start watching The Originals if it’s any good, I’ve seen most people say it’s amazing but just curious if it as good as the early seasons if TVD (1-3).

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katherine is overrated

i know a bunch of people are going to disagree with me, but i genuinely don’t like katherine🤷‍♀️ usually i love villains and i get that katherine had a tough life and every right to become a villain but i just HATEDDD the way she manipulated both stefan and damon. her obsession with stefan was a bit unsettling and the entire sibling love triangle is so weird to me. it’s probably the main reason i don’t like her which is a bit weird considering other things she’s done😂. same thing goes for elena. also katherine had so many chances to get a redemption arc but just threw them away every time lol. however, props to nina for doing such an amazing job portraying her characters!!!

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Inconsistencies with Vampire Abilities

I have watched this Show many times. But with me the more times I watch something, the more I understand and also have more questions.

So all info is Binge Movies and TV Shows since I'm stuck in a bed in a Nursing Home. There's nothing to do other than watch stuff or play games.

I'm currently on another Binge of TVD and on Season 3. My current question is when Stefan, Klaus, Damon, and Elana are in Chicago at Stefan's old Apartment, Klaus and Stefan revisit the Apartment and Elana is hiding in the secret space behind the book shelf.

Here's the question... As quiet as it was in that room, are we to believe that both Stefan and Klaus couldn't hear Elana's Breathing 🫁 and Heart Beating 💓???

We have seen earlier in the Series that Vampires can hear sounds from a large distance and in close quarters it's even more so that they hear everything. They can even pick up on whispering.

It had to be a big plot hole 🕳️ and I know the show is full of them. But still... How did they not hear anything? Also Klaus being an Original should have had even more Heightened Abilities, he should have instantly knew someone else was in that Apartment.

I hope to pick you brains on more in the very near future, till then... TTFN!!!

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This man just needs to stay single because tf😩
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My favorite pairings

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