Incoming: Scentsy Leadership Sleepover
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Any information about this company? I’m afraid my friend is being sucked into this.

Hello, I want to keep it real shorts but I didn’t know where to ask this…
My very close friend, I would say that she is my soulmate had been in touch with this brand that seems like an MLM. At first she didn’t say anything about this (we are living far away from each other) she just would say that she needs to join a meeting or she’s stepping into a new thing in her life etc.

The brand is called “TIENS” I couldn’t find any posts or information about this on Reddit which seems weird. It wasn’t listed in MLMs too but it has the exact same pyramid system.

Anyways, she got me joined one of the meetings irl. A small group of people. I was introduced to pads first. My mom already used these pads for her ovary cyst and infection. They’re honestly made very well. I thought it was a women’s health company at first and was excited but things got weird real quick when we got to supplements and bracelets.

You can heal every single illness in this world with supplements and a magnet bracelet apparently. We got balance test. Like we were trying to be proven that the magnets in the bracelet helped you keep on balance or something? I dunno. The meeting ended with the workers telling me how much money I could make. The vacations their company sends them to or how easy it is to make money, all you need is to have a phone/laptop etc. I was uninterested because I knew those type of things took so much time. But it did not accour to me until I got home that it was a kind of MLM.

it’s weird because my friend is such a logical person and she said she made research over a year and she was sure the brand was trustworthy. I’m still shady about this and kinda upset that this takes so much time of her life now. She’s very hopeful that she’ll be able to help people.
Anyone can inform or help?

Edit: the supplements costs like 50-100$ in dollars. Same for bracelets. The pricing on the website, even if signing up under a person is very high.

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How is this even supposed to work or is my friend extra bad at MLMs?

A friend got in deep with a (new to her) MLM at the beginning of last year. She's done others in the past, makeup and candles and things. With the help of this sub plus Google I finally figured out that her new one is Enagic. I had to resort to this because even though she constantly posts about it, it's all 100% vague references to her new business that "isn't an MLM", is an investment she can hand down to her kids, spending money to make money, she can do from anywhere, etc etc etc.

Not once has she ever actually tried to sell anything to anyone (at least publicly, but she's never DMed me about it either even though we message semi regularly). She has also never stated the name of the company or even said what she's selling. The only thing she ever does is ask if people are interested in her new money making scheme and tell them to message her if they are.

I don't get how she thinks this is ever going to result in income, or how she can believe it's not an MLM when the only thing she's doing is trying to recruit people into her downline or whatever they call it. I'm genuinely puzzled. Is this normal for Enagic? In the past she was constantly trying to get people to buy the actual products, so at least I could understand how she would get drawn into it, but this is bizarre...

It's also often horribly dystopian; she regularly uses personal tragedies to try and rope people in, like when her husband was in an accident and she started posting about how great it was that she could do her business while waiting at the hospital. I just do not get this at all.

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The Superstar Scentsy Director spends her entire day posting on Facebook
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And the Scentsy tea continues..
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so because they do things “differently “ it doesn’t make them an mlm?🙄
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Suspect MLM

So we have a family friend who is actually a solicitor however they are clueless about MLM. Her son has kinda drifted since leaving school. He was selling door to door for a bit.

When I saw her last week she said he is now "running his own online business " and he sells advertising on websites. She was very vague about what he does but to me this screams enagic. The language, the targeting a bloke who is a bit lost and not worldly.

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Armed Forces Divsion

These folks are coming to Pensacola on January 17 and when I saw GFI my antennas went up. I just want to know if anybody on here has heard of them? Thank you in advance

https://armedforcesdivision.com/

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Purple-haired Fermaglo Lady Reeks of Desperation

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AmWay IBO lacks self-awareness with company name

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I've noticed many of the huns who used to push powdered crap to drink are feeling the pressures of GLP-1 medications and leaning into them. They're fighting a losing battle. If their whole identity and business was weight loss, they're running scared, for sure.
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Thrive by Level

I'm currently having a disagreement with someone who is saying you can't buy your rank with Level as a promoter, it has to be outside sales. We are actually discussing the Watts case. It was obvious Shan'ann Watts was putting her own money into this MLM and as a result the families finances were in a terrible state but this person will not have it that it's even an option. Am I completely wrong? Not victim blaming Shan'ann by the way, sadly she bought into the MLM bs and just couldn't see her way out of it.

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I wonder if the Scentsy GoFundMe was actually for the Mexico Incentive Trip flights
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This woman apparently lost 13 INCHES while only losing 4lbs. Are they even trying to make it sound real anymore?

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Young Living corporate email leaked that they will be shutting down the MLM side of the business in Q2 of 2026
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Comedian Helen Anderson…
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It’s a guilty pleasure and probably not healthy but I absolutely love it when these huns go to their “yearly retreats” and “kick off conferences”. It’s like watching a reality tv show…that’s real! For free !

It’s just so funny to see cult like behavior at play while they totally lack the awareness to realize they’re in a cult that loses money. It’s almost like watching a Scientology documentary.

What gets me the most is they all act like they’re Jensen at CES revealing how they’re going to change the world haha. Some other things:

First of all they are paying to go to their own work conference, while everyone else in the world has their own company to pay for it.

Secondly it’s all just one big cult propaganda display similar to mega churches or trump rallies.

Thirdly, like half of them go into debt to do it 😂

Lastly they always come back saying they’re a new person ready to take on the world to become a millionaire. Only to literally lose money to brainwashing, go in debt, and then once again be convinced to go again next year in order to change their mindset 😅


It’s like watching a cult documentary in real time.

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Hun basically saying her income numbers are completely made up.
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What MLM is this?

An acquaintance of mine has been posting on insta about an opportunity she just joined. Claims she’s made thousands of dollars in a couple months (and has shown cheques she’s received in the mail) and goes on about how she doesn’t need to cold message family/friends etc. She has mentioned high ticket affiliate marketing, but I’ve never once seen her sell or promote anything? It’s very confusing. She says there is a sign in “cash back” bonus this month of $1,800. But then claims you don’t have to pay anything out of pocket but there’s an “investment”.

I’ve googled “legacy project” and see things about Enagic but again, I’ve never seen her promote any products. What is this??

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Update: GF (in Amway/WWDB for 4 years) finally quits the “business” after ultimatum – but begs to keep attending weekly meetings with her “friends”. Did I make the right call?

Link to initial post: https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/1ppo3fc/just\_found\_out\_my\_gf\_is\_in\_an\_amway\_subgroup/

Over the past few weeks (including a holiday where I met her parents), I’ve been talking to my girlfriend about her involvement in Amway through World Wide Dreambuilders (WWDB). She’s been in it for 4 years now, and currently has two people in her downline.

How I first brought it up

The first time I raised concerns, she genuinely didn’t understand what I was talking about – it was like talking to a zombie. We crunched her numbers for one month: after all expenses (products, events, etc.), her “income” was pathetic – barely anything.

I was super stressed bringing it up, and at one point she was close to tears. Then, like flipping a switch, her whole demeanor changed – suddenly super positive and happy that I worry so much about her well being. It was honestly alienating and creepy.

What I’ve shown her since

I’ve brought it up a few more times, showed her anti-MLM videos, and we calculated her full year’s profit. Surprise: after deducting all the products she bought for personal use, she actually lost the equivalent of a full month’s salary from her normal job on this “side business”.

Recent “success” that complicated things

Last month, for the first time, she made some decent money after expenses – not life-changing, but good for direct sales. This made it harder to convince her.

The ultimatum and where we are now

Yesterday, I finally gave her an ultimatum: me or Amway.

After a lot of back-and-forth (including her talking directly to her upline about quitting), we compromised:

•  She quits the business/sales side completely.

•  But she doesn’t want to lose the “community” – a big chunk of her closest friends are in WWDB.

She begged to keep going to the weekly meetings. We settled on:

•  She can attend once a week.

•  In three months, she has to choose: me or the group.

She’s starting to intellectually understand that making serious money in Amway isn’t realistic, but she’s emotionally deeply tied to this group. It’s like a cult – hard (maybe impossible) to fully untangle.

My doubt

I’m not sure if compromising was the right move. None of the “concession” ideas (like limited meetings) came from me – they were her proposals. Part of me worries the meetings will just pull her back in.

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