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There are still people upset about me sunsetting MagiskHide. I'll address everything in one place, one last time:

• I genuinely do not enjoy doing any development on hiding anymore, because there is a very obvious solution to it, and there is no practical way to defeat it

• The solution mentioned in the previous point is HW key attestation, and it has been slowly adopted in various detection methods, notably SafetyNet

• Ever since HW KA started to be used more widely, any real development on MagiskHide had basically already been halted

• I "officially" announced the removal of MagiskHide, not only because of the obvious conflict of interest with my job at Google, but also I wanted to give an early heads up to the community so those who are still passionate about hiding can start "doing their job" 😉

• The new "DenyList" feature of upcoming Magisk versions is me preserving portions of the of hiding codebase and transform it into something I felt is valuable

• It's not a secret that specifically designed modules can indeed utilize the DenyList feature for "hiding" purposes

• DenyList, however, is only meant to "revert all Magisk changes". It will not attempt to manipulate any other signals on the device

• Since Magisk already provides root permissions, modules don't actually need to rely on DenyList for hiding. They can do everything themselves

• There are already modules out there that directly manipulates root detecting processes / system services to workaround HW KA

• This kind of approach to "hide root" is not something I would personally do anyways, regardless of whether I work at Google or not

• However, these invasive methods are actually the only way to workaround HW KA. It will not work forever though, so enjoy while you can 😅

• I wish people won't fork Magisk just to add MagiskHide. Seriously, spending effort on hide modules is much more productive than forks

• But of course, Magisk is open source, you can do whatever you want 🤷‍♂️

• My honest stance on root detection? With HW KA, that war is already over for me. For me right now, within Google we are brainstorming solutions on how to deal with the "root detection abuse" situation

• You'll be surprised with how many people in Google are pro-modding. It's just that differentiating between abuse and modding is an extremely difficult problem. As a platform, unfortunately, and understandably, preventing abuse has significantly higher priority than modding 🙁

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