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Biggest unstated question here IMO, — Does non-interactively learning from books, where the communication is overwhelmingly only in one direction, count as “people”? IMO clearly no, not at all — especially since ~100% of the “people” in abnormally smart…
FWIW, there are some analogous student & teacher concepts in AI,
in “knowledge distillation”, where,
(1) a huge model first self-teaches, on massive amounts of mostly or entirely raw data — figuring out all kinds of things on its own from raw data = SELF-TAUGHT
(2) then the huge model creates the training data to train a vastly smaller model — passing to that smaller model the much tinier amount of learnings the huge model arrived at, and ofc throwing away much of the insights that lead to it figuring out those things = smaller student model is NON-SELF-TAUGHT
The tradeoff for self-taught vs non-self taught?
+ Larger self-taught teacher model often ends up with vastly higher liquid IQ, in part due to not throwing away all the insights it gained while arriving at the final conclusions it shared witht he student — at the expense of the huge model being much more expensive to run
+ Smaller taught student model often being much cheaper to run, and having surprisingly high crystalized / memorized IQ just under the teachers — But having relatively horrible liquid / thinking IQ once you wander outside of the stuff it memorized
Can see this tradeoff pretty clearly e.g. in OpenAI’s collection of much faster and cheaper models, that were created exactly through this self-taught-teacher vs taught-student process.
Again, self-taught competely dominates being taught by a teacher — at least in the above sense
= 1000x better insights which you can then use to figure out the answers to other new problems — when you’re self-taught
= And that’s probably exactly why being self-taught makes people so much better at solving unsolved new problems
Self-teaching makes you build up a database of useful intuitions and insights that can then be readily repurposed for solving other problems, rather than just being stuck with what you’d memorized from a teacher
— And yes, smart teachers still can help guide in the direction of the right answer
— But what if, only by going off down some of those WRONG paths, can the learner learn why those wrong directions are wrong, and reuse some of those insights learned on the wrong paths when searching for solutions to future unsolved problems? Hm
Self-taught dominates, when it comes to raw IQ, despite the much lower efficiency
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in “knowledge distillation”, where,
(1) a huge model first self-teaches, on massive amounts of mostly or entirely raw data — figuring out all kinds of things on its own from raw data = SELF-TAUGHT
(2) then the huge model creates the training data to train a vastly smaller model — passing to that smaller model the much tinier amount of learnings the huge model arrived at, and ofc throwing away much of the insights that lead to it figuring out those things = smaller student model is NON-SELF-TAUGHT
The tradeoff for self-taught vs non-self taught?
+ Larger self-taught teacher model often ends up with vastly higher liquid IQ, in part due to not throwing away all the insights it gained while arriving at the final conclusions it shared witht he student — at the expense of the huge model being much more expensive to run
+ Smaller taught student model often being much cheaper to run, and having surprisingly high crystalized / memorized IQ just under the teachers — But having relatively horrible liquid / thinking IQ once you wander outside of the stuff it memorized
Can see this tradeoff pretty clearly e.g. in OpenAI’s collection of much faster and cheaper models, that were created exactly through this self-taught-teacher vs taught-student process.
Again, self-taught competely dominates being taught by a teacher — at least in the above sense
= 1000x better insights which you can then use to figure out the answers to other new problems — when you’re self-taught
= And that’s probably exactly why being self-taught makes people so much better at solving unsolved new problems
Self-teaching makes you build up a database of useful intuitions and insights that can then be readily repurposed for solving other problems, rather than just being stuck with what you’d memorized from a teacher
— And yes, smart teachers still can help guide in the direction of the right answer
— But what if, only by going off down some of those WRONG paths, can the learner learn why those wrong directions are wrong, and reuse some of those insights learned on the wrong paths when searching for solutions to future unsolved problems? Hm
Self-taught dominates, when it comes to raw IQ, despite the much lower efficiency
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TRUMP ON TARIFFS: "August 1st is a very big day for this country because money is going to pour into the United States like we've never seen before."
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BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi just had an absolute MELTDOWN when Jake Tapper brought up her insider trading
This is incredible
“Why do you have to read that?! That’s not what I agreed to come and talk about!”
What are you hiding, Nancy?!
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This is incredible
“Why do you have to read that?! That’s not what I agreed to come and talk about!”
What are you hiding, Nancy?!
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Now that the police state is taking over, Europeans are failing to identify it as such because it doesn’t look cartoonishly evil like in the movies.
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JUST IN: Nancy Pelosi says she does not engage in insider trading and has 'no concerns' about her past investments.
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BREAKING: One of James Clapper’s cronies threatened to WITHHOLD a promotion of a senior intelligence official if that official did not go along with Obama’s Russia Collusion Hoax, per docs viewed by ProfMJCleveland
Obama and his henchmen were BLACKMAILING OFFICIALS to push their fake “intelligence”
“I need you to say you agree with these judgements, so that DIA will go along with them,” Clapper’s crony said
He told the official he “would need to demonstrate his ability to ‘outgrow’” his refusal to sign off on assessments he did NOT believe in, in order to be recommended for a promotion.
UNBELIEVABLE amounts of corruption continue to be uncovered in this scandal.
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Obama and his henchmen were BLACKMAILING OFFICIALS to push their fake “intelligence”
“I need you to say you agree with these judgements, so that DIA will go along with them,” Clapper’s crony said
He told the official he “would need to demonstrate his ability to ‘outgrow’” his refusal to sign off on assessments he did NOT believe in, in order to be recommended for a promotion.
UNBELIEVABLE amounts of corruption continue to be uncovered in this scandal.
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BREAKING Chile has evacuated over 1 million people from coast over tsunami risk, emergency services say
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NEW - F.02 humanoid robot is doing laundry, not teleoperated, but by using an AI neural network.
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Fidel Castro loved milk so much that he gave military honors to his favorite cow when she died.
He also asked scientists to engineer dog-sized cattle to live in people's homes so they could be self-sufficient for milk.
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He also asked scientists to engineer dog-sized cattle to live in people's homes so they could be self-sufficient for milk.
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