First time watching! Which characters does the fandom generally dislike?
I’m mid-way through season 2 and I really really hate Charlie and Ana…. I find Charlie so creepy and just the way he latches onto women and speaks for them is very odd. Ana Lucia really plays a bad cop well…she has no deescalation skills at all and is so hot headed. Even knowing her backstory, I don’t find her decisions justified at all. I can tolerate the rest of the characters and really like many of them, but I’ve seen some names floating around in similar posts that really surprised me. What would you guys say is the general consensus by season 3?
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I’m mid-way through season 2 and I really really hate Charlie and Ana…. I find Charlie so creepy and just the way he latches onto women and speaks for them is very odd. Ana Lucia really plays a bad cop well…she has no deescalation skills at all and is so hot headed. Even knowing her backstory, I don’t find her decisions justified at all. I can tolerate the rest of the characters and really like many of them, but I’ve seen some names floating around in similar posts that really surprised me. What would you guys say is the general consensus by season 3?
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Discussion/Questions about some of the themes and answers in the show Spoilers
I have a few questions about some of the answers we were given in LOST as well as some of the mysteries I think were left unresolved (or were just dropped in the course of the show). I see a lot of comments about how all of the main questions were answered or that we were given enough pieces of the puzzle to solve it ourselves and I think this is true for the most part but there are still some holes and explanations I think were unsatisfying.
One of the major themes of LOST is the Science/Faith divide and another is the concept of balance (taking from Buddhism and Taoism among other religions/philosophies) and Science vs Faith is explored very much as a yin/yang analogue. I think LOST explores this very well for the most part but it then falls apart (for me) in season 6 where the majority of the answers we're given fall very firmly under the Faith umbrella. Jack develops and matures as a character enough that he becomes the man of faith, acknowledging Locke and finally letting go of his major character flaw throughout the series, being that he feels the need to be in control of everything. I think it's a great character arc and it's a brilliant final moment for him, handing the reins over to Hurley and just having faith that he's done everything he can do and that Hurley can handle things from here. But I feel as though LOST just abandons the Science side of things - the electromagnetism and special properties/nature of the island are akin to mysticism for me, they do answer the questions in the show but it's a very Faith based answer and I don't see the Science in it. I feel unsatisfied as it also then falls flat in the balance and yin/yang themes.
There are also major arcs that don't go anywhere - the biggest one being Walt. Why was Walt so special even before he came to the island? I understand he had a strong affinity to the Source of the island and his powers were a result of his connection to it but then he was just written out of the show - I think he was even stronger than other special characters (aside from Des) because he was chosen by the island itself rather than Jacob (I don't think it was ever confirmed if he was one of Jacob's candidates but he definitely wasn't one of the final 6). It feels like he was built up to have a major role but then was just written off with no real explanation, and again his character is firmly Faith and little Science.
Another major issue I have is the smoke monster, which I feel was never really explained. It's Jacob's brother who died and then entered the Source, so it seems like it's sort of an embodiment of spiritual corruption as the result of evil coming into contact with the Source. But Jacob's brother was never really evil while he was alive so I don't understand why it became the main antagonist when it seemed to me that it was Jacob's brother who initially believed in people and just wanted to leave the island. Why wasn't he allowed to leave the island while he was alive? I can get behind him not being able to leave once he became the smoke monster but it doesn't seem like it was ever explained why he wasn't allowed to leave in the first place (especially since Jacob could leave at will). Is it just because their mother was crazy and corrputed/brainwashed her children, forcing them to play the roles she intended for them? If so, it seems very unfair for MiB as he never really had a chance in the first place, which feels particularly out of place in a show that champions the idea of people being capable of redemption. There are frequent references to The Rules that Jacob and his brother have to follow but these are never actually explained or expanded on, which for me isn't a very satisfying answer (particularly when these are the answer to a fair few mysteries in the show) and again supports Faith to the detriment of Science. The Rules end up getting thrown around a lot to justify things in the 6th season, especially in the temple arc which I think is the only arc in the show I
I have a few questions about some of the answers we were given in LOST as well as some of the mysteries I think were left unresolved (or were just dropped in the course of the show). I see a lot of comments about how all of the main questions were answered or that we were given enough pieces of the puzzle to solve it ourselves and I think this is true for the most part but there are still some holes and explanations I think were unsatisfying.
One of the major themes of LOST is the Science/Faith divide and another is the concept of balance (taking from Buddhism and Taoism among other religions/philosophies) and Science vs Faith is explored very much as a yin/yang analogue. I think LOST explores this very well for the most part but it then falls apart (for me) in season 6 where the majority of the answers we're given fall very firmly under the Faith umbrella. Jack develops and matures as a character enough that he becomes the man of faith, acknowledging Locke and finally letting go of his major character flaw throughout the series, being that he feels the need to be in control of everything. I think it's a great character arc and it's a brilliant final moment for him, handing the reins over to Hurley and just having faith that he's done everything he can do and that Hurley can handle things from here. But I feel as though LOST just abandons the Science side of things - the electromagnetism and special properties/nature of the island are akin to mysticism for me, they do answer the questions in the show but it's a very Faith based answer and I don't see the Science in it. I feel unsatisfied as it also then falls flat in the balance and yin/yang themes.
There are also major arcs that don't go anywhere - the biggest one being Walt. Why was Walt so special even before he came to the island? I understand he had a strong affinity to the Source of the island and his powers were a result of his connection to it but then he was just written out of the show - I think he was even stronger than other special characters (aside from Des) because he was chosen by the island itself rather than Jacob (I don't think it was ever confirmed if he was one of Jacob's candidates but he definitely wasn't one of the final 6). It feels like he was built up to have a major role but then was just written off with no real explanation, and again his character is firmly Faith and little Science.
Another major issue I have is the smoke monster, which I feel was never really explained. It's Jacob's brother who died and then entered the Source, so it seems like it's sort of an embodiment of spiritual corruption as the result of evil coming into contact with the Source. But Jacob's brother was never really evil while he was alive so I don't understand why it became the main antagonist when it seemed to me that it was Jacob's brother who initially believed in people and just wanted to leave the island. Why wasn't he allowed to leave the island while he was alive? I can get behind him not being able to leave once he became the smoke monster but it doesn't seem like it was ever explained why he wasn't allowed to leave in the first place (especially since Jacob could leave at will). Is it just because their mother was crazy and corrputed/brainwashed her children, forcing them to play the roles she intended for them? If so, it seems very unfair for MiB as he never really had a chance in the first place, which feels particularly out of place in a show that champions the idea of people being capable of redemption. There are frequent references to The Rules that Jacob and his brother have to follow but these are never actually explained or expanded on, which for me isn't a very satisfying answer (particularly when these are the answer to a fair few mysteries in the show) and again supports Faith to the detriment of Science. The Rules end up getting thrown around a lot to justify things in the 6th season, especially in the temple arc which I think is the only arc in the show I
actively dislike.
I should clarify that I like LOST and I don't think the ending is a cop-out or that things I've raised mean it's badly written. I disagree with people who will point out things like the polar bears being on the island, which was given a very good answer (and may have made my expectations for future answers too high), or minor things like not explaining who was shooting from the second outrigger during the time skips, as that can be pieced together and even if it couldn't it doesn't really create a plot hole or go against the themes of the show. A big one I think is often misinterpreted or misunderstood is the flash sideways, which clearly happen after the events of the series and serve as a device to allow the characters to find peace and resolve their issues after their deaths, but people think it means they were in Purgatory or that it contradicts things that happened on the island - I think misunderstandings and arguments about things like this (often from people who watched the first few seasons then jumped to the series finale) fracture the fan base and shut down discussion about points like the ones I've raised above. I want to hear from the people who say that everything was explained about what they think regarding Science being underexplored at the end of LOST and whether answers like The Rules and the Source feel satisfying to them when I think that while it does offer an explanation that it feels flat when considered in the context of Balance and Faith vs Science themes. Especially that Jacob's brother never had a chance at redemption when I would say it's the core theme of the show.
I also get that there are issues that came up because they were forced to do 6 seasons and it's difficult to tie early seasons together effectively as well as that some things are just a result of issues that arise in creating a tv show - the prime one being that the out of show explanation for Walt is that he was written out because the actor was growing up too fast, but inside the show it feels cheap as he was built up and focused on so much only to have no real impact. It might be that I'm just expecting too much from the creators - I don't really like the answer that the show was always about the characters as it was marketed for the mysteries and the writers knew that the entire time. Of course things like the smoke monster and Richard's immortality were always going to be difficult to explain in terms of science (it would need to be magical/future science where it's really indistinguishable from magic, but I think that this is different to Faith). Does anyone have explanations where they think Science was balanced in as much as Faith and can answer things on its own like Faith can? Or can you share how you feel satisfied with how Jacob's brother is treated initially or how The Rules are brought up? I'd love to get another perspective on it from other people who love the show.
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I should clarify that I like LOST and I don't think the ending is a cop-out or that things I've raised mean it's badly written. I disagree with people who will point out things like the polar bears being on the island, which was given a very good answer (and may have made my expectations for future answers too high), or minor things like not explaining who was shooting from the second outrigger during the time skips, as that can be pieced together and even if it couldn't it doesn't really create a plot hole or go against the themes of the show. A big one I think is often misinterpreted or misunderstood is the flash sideways, which clearly happen after the events of the series and serve as a device to allow the characters to find peace and resolve their issues after their deaths, but people think it means they were in Purgatory or that it contradicts things that happened on the island - I think misunderstandings and arguments about things like this (often from people who watched the first few seasons then jumped to the series finale) fracture the fan base and shut down discussion about points like the ones I've raised above. I want to hear from the people who say that everything was explained about what they think regarding Science being underexplored at the end of LOST and whether answers like The Rules and the Source feel satisfying to them when I think that while it does offer an explanation that it feels flat when considered in the context of Balance and Faith vs Science themes. Especially that Jacob's brother never had a chance at redemption when I would say it's the core theme of the show.
I also get that there are issues that came up because they were forced to do 6 seasons and it's difficult to tie early seasons together effectively as well as that some things are just a result of issues that arise in creating a tv show - the prime one being that the out of show explanation for Walt is that he was written out because the actor was growing up too fast, but inside the show it feels cheap as he was built up and focused on so much only to have no real impact. It might be that I'm just expecting too much from the creators - I don't really like the answer that the show was always about the characters as it was marketed for the mysteries and the writers knew that the entire time. Of course things like the smoke monster and Richard's immortality were always going to be difficult to explain in terms of science (it would need to be magical/future science where it's really indistinguishable from magic, but I think that this is different to Faith). Does anyone have explanations where they think Science was balanced in as much as Faith and can answer things on its own like Faith can? Or can you share how you feel satisfied with how Jacob's brother is treated initially or how The Rules are brought up? I'd love to get another perspective on it from other people who love the show.
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Help me cure my post Lost blues
I’ve been watching Lost for roughly 3-4 months and now I truly feel -lost~ without it.
I’ve seen a few different recommendations floating around but would love to know your favourite shows with a similar vibe. I loved the mystery, mythology, character development and sci-fi/timetravel aspects of this show, and I have seen a lot of others in this same genre but looking for my next fix.
Somewhat similar shows I’ve already seen (and enjoyed) - Severance, Dark, 1899, Archive 81, Silo, Outlander, Stranger Things, Westworld, Yellowjackets, Twin Peaks
Would love to hear more suggestions from y’all - and if you have any further podcast/reading recommendations you’ve enjoyed about lost please send them my way! I’ll be clinging onto the island for as long as I can 🥹
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I’ve been watching Lost for roughly 3-4 months and now I truly feel -lost~ without it.
I’ve seen a few different recommendations floating around but would love to know your favourite shows with a similar vibe. I loved the mystery, mythology, character development and sci-fi/timetravel aspects of this show, and I have seen a lot of others in this same genre but looking for my next fix.
Somewhat similar shows I’ve already seen (and enjoyed) - Severance, Dark, 1899, Archive 81, Silo, Outlander, Stranger Things, Westworld, Yellowjackets, Twin Peaks
Would love to hear more suggestions from y’all - and if you have any further podcast/reading recommendations you’ve enjoyed about lost please send them my way! I’ll be clinging onto the island for as long as I can 🥹
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Question about Christian
Spoilers
If Locke's body was in the coffin, and the Monster possessed him,
Why was Christian's body missing?
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If Locke's body was in the coffin, and the Monster possessed him,
Why was Christian's body missing?
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This one gonna sounds different from topic, but lost Fans are the best tv show fans ive ever seen.
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Lost Explained YouTube Channel has a hidden secret video link
This channel has the most in-depth explainer videos I’ve ever seen for this show, and that’s saying something. Recently, they started releasing regular vids, going over each episode. For the first time, I noticed something four seconds before the end of the video:
https://preview.redd.it/j627ymvqr2wf1.png?width=1353&format=png&auto=webp&s=340688d339e0f7d02c44a976858196586d0de827
Has anyone found the secret video link?
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This channel has the most in-depth explainer videos I’ve ever seen for this show, and that’s saying something. Recently, they started releasing regular vids, going over each episode. For the first time, I noticed something four seconds before the end of the video:
https://preview.redd.it/j627ymvqr2wf1.png?width=1353&format=png&auto=webp&s=340688d339e0f7d02c44a976858196586d0de827
Has anyone found the secret video link?
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