Just finished Lost and I have a lot of thoughts and one question
Edit: Many questions*
Just finished lost and I cried like 5 times during the finale. But the final 10 mins, right from when Locke recognizes Jack, it was a blur for me and I’m sure I’ll have to watch it again to let it sink in.
So did I get this right? Please tell me if not.
- Desmond moves the stone, and the island shakes and Locke (smoke monster) becomes capable of being killed
- Jack kills MiB
- Jack saves Desmond.
- Hurley becomes the islands protector. And Ben becomes his number 2
- Desmond, is somehow sent back to his life via Hurley.
- Kate Sawyer Lapidus Miles Richard and Claire leave the island on the plane. Jack sees them leave.
- Jack dies then and there next to vincent
- All the flashes shown in s6, after the blast in 70s, are basically “some place after death”
- all the characters are living some fictional version of their life in that place after death, whenever that occurs. Could be 5 days could be 50 yrs from the event of the island
- they all meet together in the end because their time together was the most important bit of their lives
Questions:
- Why do they all look the same age as they were when they were on the island if they died at different points in life?
- Why is Aaron there? (Did I see this correctly?)
- So where were all the people who died early on, like Boone, Shannon, Libby and even Jack, while they waited for the others to die?
- Finally, what about the other characters we see in that flash sideways / post death scenes, like Helen, David, Nadia’s kids etc. why were they there?
But final takeaway - Jack dies? He literally sacrificed himself for the island, when he could have let Desmond do it because he was immune to electromagnetic waves.
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Edit: Many questions*
Just finished lost and I cried like 5 times during the finale. But the final 10 mins, right from when Locke recognizes Jack, it was a blur for me and I’m sure I’ll have to watch it again to let it sink in.
So did I get this right? Please tell me if not.
- Desmond moves the stone, and the island shakes and Locke (smoke monster) becomes capable of being killed
- Jack kills MiB
- Jack saves Desmond.
- Hurley becomes the islands protector. And Ben becomes his number 2
- Desmond, is somehow sent back to his life via Hurley.
- Kate Sawyer Lapidus Miles Richard and Claire leave the island on the plane. Jack sees them leave.
- Jack dies then and there next to vincent
- All the flashes shown in s6, after the blast in 70s, are basically “some place after death”
- all the characters are living some fictional version of their life in that place after death, whenever that occurs. Could be 5 days could be 50 yrs from the event of the island
- they all meet together in the end because their time together was the most important bit of their lives
Questions:
- Why do they all look the same age as they were when they were on the island if they died at different points in life?
- Why is Aaron there? (Did I see this correctly?)
- So where were all the people who died early on, like Boone, Shannon, Libby and even Jack, while they waited for the others to die?
- Finally, what about the other characters we see in that flash sideways / post death scenes, like Helen, David, Nadia’s kids etc. why were they there?
But final takeaway - Jack dies? He literally sacrificed himself for the island, when he could have let Desmond do it because he was immune to electromagnetic waves.
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John Locke, enemy or ally?
I'm on season 3 of Lost, and I can't fathom why John is still alive? He blew up hatches, he blew up the submarine, he took off with The Others. He got Sawyer to kill his worthless father. I had to resend this because I guess I used the word hate regarding John, so this one is more dislike and mistrust. There's something wrong with this fellow. He is hiding something.
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I'm on season 3 of Lost, and I can't fathom why John is still alive? He blew up hatches, he blew up the submarine, he took off with The Others. He got Sawyer to kill his worthless father. I had to resend this because I guess I used the word hate regarding John, so this one is more dislike and mistrust. There's something wrong with this fellow. He is hiding something.
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Just got done watching the show. The finale was tough but this scene specifically had me in tears. I wasn’t prepared.
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I need reassurance... am I experiencing a Mandela effect??
Alright, some small spoilers in the mix here, but I'm currently on what is probably rewatch number 12 to 15ish. I just rewatched S2E1 "Man of Science, Man of Faith," and I feel like I might be going a little crazy.
During the flashback scene when Jack is about to operate on Sarah, she is laying on the surgical table and calls him over. She says that it's okay, she knows she won't be dancing at her wedding, but she can still roll around. Now, in my head, she definitely says to him "I'm letting you off the hook," during this exchange, before Jack says "I'm gonna fix you."
However, she doesn't say it. I had to actually stop and rewind to see if I missed it because I was expecting to hear it with such certainty that I figured I must have. Then I thought maybe I was misremembering and she instead says it in another flashback scene after the surgery. But nope. Not there either.
Now, the thing is, other parts of the internet agree with me. (I realize this is not typically a good rationalization for, well, anything.) But on Lostpedia, in the wiki for "regularly spoken phrases," it is included as one of the three times that the line is spoken to Jack:
https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Regularly\_spoken\_phrases/G-N#%22Letting\_you\_off\_the\_hook%22
In the Wikipedia entry for the "Do No Harm" episode (S1E20), it also mentions that the phrase Boone says to Jack is spoken again by Sarah in S2E1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do\_No\_Harm\_(Lost)#:\~:text=Boone%20says%20to%20Jack%20%22I,of%20Faith%22%20in%20a%20flashback#:~:text=Boone%20says%20to%20Jack%20%22I,of%20Faith%22%20in%20a%20flashback)
It would make sense for her to say it to him at that exact moment, since it is a recurring comment to Jack, first by both Rose and Boone. But I feel like I can picture Sarah saying it softly to him as she's lying on the table. Like, it's in my brain. Her inflection and everything. But it's not in the episode.
At least it's not in the episode that is currently on Netflix. I can't imagine why that version would be different than what aired or what was on the DVDs, especially to have that line edited, specifically. But is that a possibility?
I checked out the trannoscript in Lostpedia, but it does not show that line in the episode at all. It shows exactly how I'm watching it now. https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Man\_of\_Science,\_Man\_of\_Faith\_trannoscript
But I don't know for sure where that trannoscript was taken from.
So was this line never spoken by Sarah? Am I conflating it with the first two times it's said to Jack and just feel like it would fit perfectly in that scene? But why do other people also seem to believe that she says it to him?
Hurley would believe me.
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Alright, some small spoilers in the mix here, but I'm currently on what is probably rewatch number 12 to 15ish. I just rewatched S2E1 "Man of Science, Man of Faith," and I feel like I might be going a little crazy.
During the flashback scene when Jack is about to operate on Sarah, she is laying on the surgical table and calls him over. She says that it's okay, she knows she won't be dancing at her wedding, but she can still roll around. Now, in my head, she definitely says to him "I'm letting you off the hook," during this exchange, before Jack says "I'm gonna fix you."
However, she doesn't say it. I had to actually stop and rewind to see if I missed it because I was expecting to hear it with such certainty that I figured I must have. Then I thought maybe I was misremembering and she instead says it in another flashback scene after the surgery. But nope. Not there either.
Now, the thing is, other parts of the internet agree with me. (I realize this is not typically a good rationalization for, well, anything.) But on Lostpedia, in the wiki for "regularly spoken phrases," it is included as one of the three times that the line is spoken to Jack:
https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Regularly\_spoken\_phrases/G-N#%22Letting\_you\_off\_the\_hook%22
In the Wikipedia entry for the "Do No Harm" episode (S1E20), it also mentions that the phrase Boone says to Jack is spoken again by Sarah in S2E1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do\_No\_Harm\_(Lost)#:\~:text=Boone%20says%20to%20Jack%20%22I,of%20Faith%22%20in%20a%20flashback#:~:text=Boone%20says%20to%20Jack%20%22I,of%20Faith%22%20in%20a%20flashback)
It would make sense for her to say it to him at that exact moment, since it is a recurring comment to Jack, first by both Rose and Boone. But I feel like I can picture Sarah saying it softly to him as she's lying on the table. Like, it's in my brain. Her inflection and everything. But it's not in the episode.
At least it's not in the episode that is currently on Netflix. I can't imagine why that version would be different than what aired or what was on the DVDs, especially to have that line edited, specifically. But is that a possibility?
I checked out the trannoscript in Lostpedia, but it does not show that line in the episode at all. It shows exactly how I'm watching it now. https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Man\_of\_Science,\_Man\_of\_Faith\_trannoscript
But I don't know for sure where that trannoscript was taken from.
So was this line never spoken by Sarah? Am I conflating it with the first two times it's said to Jack and just feel like it would fit perfectly in that scene? But why do other people also seem to believe that she says it to him?
Hurley would believe me.
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"We have to go back for him." - Kate to Charlie, regarding Jack ("Pilot, Part 1") "We have to go back!" - Boone to Jack ("White Rabbit") "We need you to come back, Jack... please?" - Kate to Jack...