Some of my unpopular LOST opinions
1. The first arc of season 3 is not that weak, it's a very great arc that shows Ben's peak manipulations much better than the temple arc. The worst ep was stranger in a strange land but I think that the present scenes of that episode are still good, don't talk about Jack's flashbacks to me however.
2. Some of the hate Kate gets is because of misogny and nothing else. She is written very consistently, and some of the other characters who are more flawed than her get far less criticism Locke, Sayid, Sawyer.
3. The show should've had more unsolved mysteries - like not the plot related ones but I think season 6 should've have given us more of the geographical cool locations, temple was underwhelming, Tower was good and that's it, What about a cool cave? What about the tunnels? come on tunnels or underground Egyptian routes that connect? something at the peak of the hills? I always thought there was a crater somewhere, when i watched it for the first time. And more things about the lore of the island except just across the sea.
But this show should've explained some older mysteries in season 5,6 better as well. They are for the most part implied or vaguely addressed.
4. The numbers should've been used more in season 6, like something that we can piece together, to make something that maybe hints towards the future plot?
5. Some people don't like Flash Sideways but I disagree, this was a brave move, and it absolutely works in this show, It is the best concept.
6. Vincent should've appeared in the show more like I don't remember any scene of him and Jack except the pilot and the finale.
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1. The first arc of season 3 is not that weak, it's a very great arc that shows Ben's peak manipulations much better than the temple arc. The worst ep was stranger in a strange land but I think that the present scenes of that episode are still good, don't talk about Jack's flashbacks to me however.
2. Some of the hate Kate gets is because of misogny and nothing else. She is written very consistently, and some of the other characters who are more flawed than her get far less criticism Locke, Sayid, Sawyer.
3. The show should've had more unsolved mysteries - like not the plot related ones but I think season 6 should've have given us more of the geographical cool locations, temple was underwhelming, Tower was good and that's it, What about a cool cave? What about the tunnels? come on tunnels or underground Egyptian routes that connect? something at the peak of the hills? I always thought there was a crater somewhere, when i watched it for the first time. And more things about the lore of the island except just across the sea.
But this show should've explained some older mysteries in season 5,6 better as well. They are for the most part implied or vaguely addressed.
4. The numbers should've been used more in season 6, like something that we can piece together, to make something that maybe hints towards the future plot?
5. Some people don't like Flash Sideways but I disagree, this was a brave move, and it absolutely works in this show, It is the best concept.
6. Vincent should've appeared in the show more like I don't remember any scene of him and Jack except the pilot and the finale.
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Would you do what Jack perceived as the right thing to do?
His father killed someone by medical negligence and Jack told the board the truth even though his father wanted him to cover for him. It eventually led to his father dying in Australia by drinking himself to death
Would you do the same thing?
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His father killed someone by medical negligence and Jack told the board the truth even though his father wanted him to cover for him. It eventually led to his father dying in Australia by drinking himself to death
Would you do the same thing?
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Did Walt’s mom have an affair before taking the job?!
She didn’t even invite him to live with her and Walt when she took over the new job
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She didn’t even invite him to live with her and Walt when she took over the new job
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A new theory on Francis Bacon and the Island as a whole
I was listening to a podcast on Sir Francis Bacon, and suddenly I started hearing things that I could not refrain from connecting to Lost. I looked it up on Google and this subreddit, but found no mention of it. So, either I am making some pretty thin connections or I'm onto something new here.
It is no secret that Abrams and the show's writers loved cramming as many references to Enlightenment-era philosophers and other thinkers as they could into the show. Most notably, John Locke, Jeremy Bentham, Kate Austen, Danielle Rousseau, and Desmond David Hume, but the list goes on. The show also grapples with broad philosophical concepts covered by these philosophers. There are even a couple of episodes with names that reference philosophical concepts (Tabula Rasa, The Greater Good). This reference pattern in the show is so notable that there's even a page for it on the Lost wiki (https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Philosophers)
Interestingly, although so many of these Enlightenment-era philosophers are referenced, a very important one is missing; Sir Francis Bacon. This theory, of which I seem to have stumbled across completely by accident, might bridge this gap and show that there actually is, in fact, a reference to Bacon in Lost, and a very large one at that. In his novel, "The New Atlantis," Bacon describes a mythical island called Bensalem that bears striking similarity to the island in Lost.
In short, Bensalem is an island whose existence is shrouded from the outside world, yet whose inhabitants know of the outside world. The island was first found when a boat wrecked on its shores many years ago. Since its discovery, the island has hosted a caste of people who have built a society that Bacon describes as "...the virgin of the world. You shall understand that there is not under the heavens so chaste a nation as this of Bensalem; nor so free from all pollution or foulness." This group of people all speak and converse in Scholastic Latin (albeit alongside Greek and Hebrew), and, as is of key importance to his novel, host a state-sponsored scientific inquiry on the island called Saloman's House. There are various locations run by Saloman's House on the island, one such being an observatory, each performing different experiments in different fields, all in the sake of furthering human knowledge and understanding. The island also has inventors who attempt to construct physics-defying creations such as perpetual motion machines. Noticing any similarities?
I might add that the name "Ben Linus" might be a reference to "Bensalem," or "Ben Salem," nearly being an anagram, but that could be a bit of a stretch. So, overall, what are y'all's thoughts? I could be drawing lines where there aren't any, but I am also surprised that I am the first to mention this.
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I was listening to a podcast on Sir Francis Bacon, and suddenly I started hearing things that I could not refrain from connecting to Lost. I looked it up on Google and this subreddit, but found no mention of it. So, either I am making some pretty thin connections or I'm onto something new here.
It is no secret that Abrams and the show's writers loved cramming as many references to Enlightenment-era philosophers and other thinkers as they could into the show. Most notably, John Locke, Jeremy Bentham, Kate Austen, Danielle Rousseau, and Desmond David Hume, but the list goes on. The show also grapples with broad philosophical concepts covered by these philosophers. There are even a couple of episodes with names that reference philosophical concepts (Tabula Rasa, The Greater Good). This reference pattern in the show is so notable that there's even a page for it on the Lost wiki (https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Philosophers)
Interestingly, although so many of these Enlightenment-era philosophers are referenced, a very important one is missing; Sir Francis Bacon. This theory, of which I seem to have stumbled across completely by accident, might bridge this gap and show that there actually is, in fact, a reference to Bacon in Lost, and a very large one at that. In his novel, "The New Atlantis," Bacon describes a mythical island called Bensalem that bears striking similarity to the island in Lost.
In short, Bensalem is an island whose existence is shrouded from the outside world, yet whose inhabitants know of the outside world. The island was first found when a boat wrecked on its shores many years ago. Since its discovery, the island has hosted a caste of people who have built a society that Bacon describes as "...the virgin of the world. You shall understand that there is not under the heavens so chaste a nation as this of Bensalem; nor so free from all pollution or foulness." This group of people all speak and converse in Scholastic Latin (albeit alongside Greek and Hebrew), and, as is of key importance to his novel, host a state-sponsored scientific inquiry on the island called Saloman's House. There are various locations run by Saloman's House on the island, one such being an observatory, each performing different experiments in different fields, all in the sake of furthering human knowledge and understanding. The island also has inventors who attempt to construct physics-defying creations such as perpetual motion machines. Noticing any similarities?
I might add that the name "Ben Linus" might be a reference to "Bensalem," or "Ben Salem," nearly being an anagram, but that could be a bit of a stretch. So, overall, what are y'all's thoughts? I could be drawing lines where there aren't any, but I am also surprised that I am the first to mention this.
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Lost references several influential philosophers, particularly when naming its characters and episodes. This encourages viewers not only to appreciate the show as a character-based drama, but to...
I always chuckle when I see Keamy (Kevin Durand) in Austin Powers 2!
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How the times have changed
I remember watching list for the first time as an almost out of high school kid. No, not when it aired, when it came to Netflix (maybe 2014/2015?). Since then I’ve probably seen the whole show at least 8 times with the addition of a “Chronologically Lost” version.
Let me say, as someone who experienced this as their first “Big” TV Show/Series, it has been a weird experience aging along with it… On a first watch, all that mattered was the drama. I saw the character progression but was too young to understand the full depth of emotion sometimes. Now as I age (comical I’m only 28) I actually feel more from watching the show again through almost a different lens.
My childhood best friend passed away almost 5 years ago and left me with CPTSD. I’m not looking for sympathy in the comments by any means, but man after so many years finally seeing this show again has such a deep impact on me. There are so many episodes that make me cry uncomfortably now. Even though that’s the case, almost every episode (while they may make me cry) gives me a reason to laugh, a reason to love, a reason to believe in something better for the future…
I know this show has had a weird/divisive past, but even with its flaws, there really is something hidden in here anyone can connect to. Almost makes me feel like people who refuse to watch are just afraid of their own emotions.
Idk, I’m a long time lurker on the sub, first time poster, but just wanted to put something out there
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I remember watching list for the first time as an almost out of high school kid. No, not when it aired, when it came to Netflix (maybe 2014/2015?). Since then I’ve probably seen the whole show at least 8 times with the addition of a “Chronologically Lost” version.
Let me say, as someone who experienced this as their first “Big” TV Show/Series, it has been a weird experience aging along with it… On a first watch, all that mattered was the drama. I saw the character progression but was too young to understand the full depth of emotion sometimes. Now as I age (comical I’m only 28) I actually feel more from watching the show again through almost a different lens.
My childhood best friend passed away almost 5 years ago and left me with CPTSD. I’m not looking for sympathy in the comments by any means, but man after so many years finally seeing this show again has such a deep impact on me. There are so many episodes that make me cry uncomfortably now. Even though that’s the case, almost every episode (while they may make me cry) gives me a reason to laugh, a reason to love, a reason to believe in something better for the future…
I know this show has had a weird/divisive past, but even with its flaws, there really is something hidden in here anyone can connect to. Almost makes me feel like people who refuse to watch are just afraid of their own emotions.
Idk, I’m a long time lurker on the sub, first time poster, but just wanted to put something out there
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Have you noticed all the characters who open their eyes in thd beginning of the episodes?
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If Hugo could see the dead, does it mean that Dave was a real person?
Can't remember if this was ever established. I know he is known as his imaginary friend, but then it's confirmed that Hugo can indeed see the dead. When he was in Santa Rosa, did all of the dead ones from the island visited him for real (as Jacob or Richards wife), or he was just crazy?
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Can't remember if this was ever established. I know he is known as his imaginary friend, but then it's confirmed that Hugo can indeed see the dead. When he was in Santa Rosa, did all of the dead ones from the island visited him for real (as Jacob or Richards wife), or he was just crazy?
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Just finished watching the show for the first time and I'm so moved by that ending
My fiancé is the one that told me to watch the show with him (he followed it while growing up) and at first I was hesitant because I'd heard all that slander about the ending but I'm so happy he convinced me. I'm so sad for anyone that hesitates to watch this show because of the false claims about the ending, it's strange how misinterpreted it is.
I was so emotional throughout the finale, it was such a heartfelt send off for the characters and it was beautiful to see them all at peace after the hell they went through. There are still plot points that confuse me like Eloise's whole thing but overall I'm very happy with that ending. The ending on the island felt right for these characters and after seeing the epilogue it felt even better knowing Walt hadn't been forgotten. In my head I see Kate, Sawyer, Richard, Miles, Claire, and Frank living good lives and growing old and honoring the memory of those that died. God, what a ride this has been.
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My fiancé is the one that told me to watch the show with him (he followed it while growing up) and at first I was hesitant because I'd heard all that slander about the ending but I'm so happy he convinced me. I'm so sad for anyone that hesitates to watch this show because of the false claims about the ending, it's strange how misinterpreted it is.
I was so emotional throughout the finale, it was such a heartfelt send off for the characters and it was beautiful to see them all at peace after the hell they went through. There are still plot points that confuse me like Eloise's whole thing but overall I'm very happy with that ending. The ending on the island felt right for these characters and after seeing the epilogue it felt even better knowing Walt hadn't been forgotten. In my head I see Kate, Sawyer, Richard, Miles, Claire, and Frank living good lives and growing old and honoring the memory of those that died. God, what a ride this has been.
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Question about...
Mikhail talks about an electromagnetic pulse that made it impossible to arrive at the Island.
What electromagnetic pulse is it?
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Mikhail talks about an electromagnetic pulse that made it impossible to arrive at the Island.
What electromagnetic pulse is it?
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Just finished the show for the first time and have to ask...
As someone who was on tumblr for a while and experienced the SuperWhoLock insanity, what was it like for those who followed Lost in real time? Were there lots of fanfics being written? Did any of the male characters become people's hyperfixation? I can absolutely see Sawyer becoming someone's fave and having lots of flower crown edits. Were there ship wars? I want to knooooow!
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As someone who was on tumblr for a while and experienced the SuperWhoLock insanity, what was it like for those who followed Lost in real time? Were there lots of fanfics being written? Did any of the male characters become people's hyperfixation? I can absolutely see Sawyer becoming someone's fave and having lots of flower crown edits. Were there ship wars? I want to knooooow!
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The Brig🤯
We reached an incredible epsiode of the show on the podcast! The reveal of Anthony Cooper as the real Sawyer is so incredible, what did you make of that moment and this wild episode?
Check out our thoughts and would love to have you join us on our journey 😊
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We reached an incredible epsiode of the show on the podcast! The reveal of Anthony Cooper as the real Sawyer is so incredible, what did you make of that moment and this wild episode?
Check out our thoughts and would love to have you join us on our journey 😊
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LOST Season 3 Ep 19 The Brig | Tribe of Nerds
🔪 Locke’s darkest mission. Sawyer’s deepest trauma. And one of the most intense confrontations in LOST history.
In LOST S3E19 The Brig, the Tribe of Nerds break down an episode packed with emotional gut punches, long-awaited answers, and one of the most shocking…
In LOST S3E19 The Brig, the Tribe of Nerds break down an episode packed with emotional gut punches, long-awaited answers, and one of the most shocking…
Man of Faith or Man of Science?
>!Just made a huge connection regarding how they got to the island. I've already finished the show but I was just theorizing. It's told that Jacob brought them there through his touch but we also find out later that their plane crashed because of Desmond. Desmond is also only there because of the incident caused by our survivors. Maybe there's a difference between these two events but I like to view it as a question. Are you a man of faith that believes that Jacob brought these people here for a reason, or do you think that they caused themselves to crash there due to science(time travel)!<
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>!Just made a huge connection regarding how they got to the island. I've already finished the show but I was just theorizing. It's told that Jacob brought them there through his touch but we also find out later that their plane crashed because of Desmond. Desmond is also only there because of the incident caused by our survivors. Maybe there's a difference between these two events but I like to view it as a question. Are you a man of faith that believes that Jacob brought these people here for a reason, or do you think that they caused themselves to crash there due to science(time travel)!<
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Some reflections on a second viewing of the entire series
I saw it with much more attention to details, symbolism and analysis. I share reflections I had.
- The father/son relationship runs through all the characters. But not only from the absence but from the toxic relationship and emotional scars. There is a permanent feeling of revenge versus forgiveness against each parent.
- Kate and Jack could not and should not be together. When they manage to leave the island, they have a life together ruined by Jack's obsession with returning. They were always in all cases and scenarios a couple without a future.
- Jacob was a villain, much worse than black smoke. The obsession with believing himself to be a protector caused Jacob to manipulate and play with many people for decades, in Richard's case for centuries. The Black Smoke suffered his hatred in a more direct and sincere way. He wanted to leave and they always denied him.
- Jack's son who appears in the series is a representation of his permanent search for conflict and unresolved paternity. In real and parallel life he continues to carry a weight on his being that he cannot resolve.
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I saw it with much more attention to details, symbolism and analysis. I share reflections I had.
- The father/son relationship runs through all the characters. But not only from the absence but from the toxic relationship and emotional scars. There is a permanent feeling of revenge versus forgiveness against each parent.
- Kate and Jack could not and should not be together. When they manage to leave the island, they have a life together ruined by Jack's obsession with returning. They were always in all cases and scenarios a couple without a future.
- Jacob was a villain, much worse than black smoke. The obsession with believing himself to be a protector caused Jacob to manipulate and play with many people for decades, in Richard's case for centuries. The Black Smoke suffered his hatred in a more direct and sincere way. He wanted to leave and they always denied him.
- Jack's son who appears in the series is a representation of his permanent search for conflict and unresolved paternity. In real and parallel life he continues to carry a weight on his being that he cannot resolve.
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