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Finished LOST for the first time a few days ago but this has to be one of my favourite Sawyer lines in the whole show
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A brief look at the tight production schedule of Season One
Since it just came up in a question about the production time for season 1 I thought I could compile some data for a brief overview with some estimates, based on noscripts, call sheets and other info that narrow it down a bit.
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**Tabula Rasa**
*"Tabula Rasa"* was the first proper episode after the pilot. We don't really know for sure when they began working on the episode, but it was at some point in June of 2004. The final production draft is dated July 12 2004 and cameras started rolling July 15 2005. The episode premiered October 6 2004 - about 4 months after they began working on season 1.
**Walkabout**
While Tabula Rasa was being filmed on Oahu, the writers continued working on the noscripts. The first draft of *"Walkabout"* is dated July 15 2004 with the latest draft being from August 4 2004. From a spoiler-report we know that Locke's flashback scene with the wheelchair reveal was filmed July 23 2004 while the noscript was still being worked on. The episode premiered October 13 2004, about 3 months after they began filming.
**Hearts and Minds**
Jumping forward to the halfway point of the first season with *"Hearts and Minds"*. The first draft of the noscript is dated November 3 2004 with the noscript being finished by December 13 2004. The unfinished Network Cut of that episode is dated December 8 2004 - with the amount of scenes left to be filmed and all the post production to be done it's unlikely that the episode was finished before ~December 20. Hearts and Minds premiered January 12 2005, at best three weeks after the episode was finished. Any head start they had at the beginning of the season was basically gone and even more breaks between episodes unavoidable.
**Exodus**
The home stretch of season 1 was of course the three part finale *"Exodus"*. While the noscript of the episode has never been released yet, there are some photos and call sheets that give us some dates. The first date from the production draft for Part One is March 11, 2005 with the last given date being March 21, 2005. The production draft of Part Two is dated March 24, 2005.
From the call sheet we know that there were 10 filming days allocated for Part One with the episode being filmed from about March 18 to March 30 2005. Part Two had 15 days allocated for filming, which must have happened from about April 1 2005 to April 20 2005. Part One eventually premiered May 18 and Part Two May 25 2005.
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Since it just came up in a question about the production time for season 1 I thought I could compile some data for a brief overview with some estimates, based on noscripts, call sheets and other info that narrow it down a bit.
https://old.reddit.com/r/lost/comments/1r9ml5n/season_1_of_lost_was_filmed_in_2003_because_it/
**Tabula Rasa**
*"Tabula Rasa"* was the first proper episode after the pilot. We don't really know for sure when they began working on the episode, but it was at some point in June of 2004. The final production draft is dated July 12 2004 and cameras started rolling July 15 2005. The episode premiered October 6 2004 - about 4 months after they began working on season 1.
**Walkabout**
While Tabula Rasa was being filmed on Oahu, the writers continued working on the noscripts. The first draft of *"Walkabout"* is dated July 15 2004 with the latest draft being from August 4 2004. From a spoiler-report we know that Locke's flashback scene with the wheelchair reveal was filmed July 23 2004 while the noscript was still being worked on. The episode premiered October 13 2004, about 3 months after they began filming.
**Hearts and Minds**
Jumping forward to the halfway point of the first season with *"Hearts and Minds"*. The first draft of the noscript is dated November 3 2004 with the noscript being finished by December 13 2004. The unfinished Network Cut of that episode is dated December 8 2004 - with the amount of scenes left to be filmed and all the post production to be done it's unlikely that the episode was finished before ~December 20. Hearts and Minds premiered January 12 2005, at best three weeks after the episode was finished. Any head start they had at the beginning of the season was basically gone and even more breaks between episodes unavoidable.
**Exodus**
The home stretch of season 1 was of course the three part finale *"Exodus"*. While the noscript of the episode has never been released yet, there are some photos and call sheets that give us some dates. The first date from the production draft for Part One is March 11, 2005 with the last given date being March 21, 2005. The production draft of Part Two is dated March 24, 2005.
From the call sheet we know that there were 10 filming days allocated for Part One with the episode being filmed from about March 18 to March 30 2005. Part Two had 15 days allocated for filming, which must have happened from about April 1 2005 to April 20 2005. Part One eventually premiered May 18 and Part Two May 25 2005.
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How many times have you watched the series?
I’m on my third watch. It’s been about five years between watches; apparently, I find my life in shambles every five years or so and need to escape the chaos. I was just curious how many times other people have watched.
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I’m on my third watch. It’s been about five years between watches; apparently, I find my life in shambles every five years or so and need to escape the chaos. I was just curious how many times other people have watched.
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Question About Ben’s Timeline
Danielle Rousseau arrived on the island sometime in 1988. She was 7 months pregnant. 2 months later, she gave birth to Alex. She states that the baby was taken about a week after giving birth. We later see in one of Ben’s flashbacks that he was the one who stole her, along with a young Ethan. So that would’ve had to happen in February 1989 at the very latest.
However, we know that the Dharma Purge didn’t happen until 1992. Locke’s vision of Horace building the cabin says he’s been dead for 12 years. 2004-12=1992. This is confirmed on Lostpedia.
On that day, Ben is still a member of the Dharma Initiative. He’s wearing the uniform and goes with his dad in a Dharma van where he kills him.
How do we reconcile this? Was Ben their mole inside Dharma but still sneaking off to moonlight as an Other? Was Ethen doing that as well, even though he appears to only be a teenager? Has this been explained anywhere?
Edit: this also carries the implication that Rousseau was on the island with the Dharma Initiative still present for about 3 years.
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Danielle Rousseau arrived on the island sometime in 1988. She was 7 months pregnant. 2 months later, she gave birth to Alex. She states that the baby was taken about a week after giving birth. We later see in one of Ben’s flashbacks that he was the one who stole her, along with a young Ethan. So that would’ve had to happen in February 1989 at the very latest.
However, we know that the Dharma Purge didn’t happen until 1992. Locke’s vision of Horace building the cabin says he’s been dead for 12 years. 2004-12=1992. This is confirmed on Lostpedia.
On that day, Ben is still a member of the Dharma Initiative. He’s wearing the uniform and goes with his dad in a Dharma van where he kills him.
How do we reconcile this? Was Ben their mole inside Dharma but still sneaking off to moonlight as an Other? Was Ethen doing that as well, even though he appears to only be a teenager? Has this been explained anywhere?
Edit: this also carries the implication that Rousseau was on the island with the Dharma Initiative still present for about 3 years.
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I’m ready for Locke to be a villain
Season one, episode one: Locke was a villain the whole time. Not just some late series BS. I mean lowkey his curiosity is pretty dangerous. Can’t wait until they open this hatch. They really know how to tease a plot line.
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Season one, episode one: Locke was a villain the whole time. Not just some late series BS. I mean lowkey his curiosity is pretty dangerous. Can’t wait until they open this hatch. They really know how to tease a plot line.
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Single favorite dialogue exchange in the entire show?
Mine is in S2, E3, Orientation, when Jack and Locke argue over who should push the button.
"Why do you find it so hard to believe?"
"Why do you find it so easy?"
"It's never been easy!"
That basically sums up their completing philosophies in just three lines. The whole situation was tense as hell as well.
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Mine is in S2, E3, Orientation, when Jack and Locke argue over who should push the button.
"Why do you find it so hard to believe?"
"Why do you find it so easy?"
"It's never been easy!"
That basically sums up their completing philosophies in just three lines. The whole situation was tense as hell as well.
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My Biggest Question in the Show
How the hell are Ben and Charles Whitmore so damn rich if they spent their entire lives on the island? Charles spent at least 20-30 years on the island, leaves, and somehow just has a gigantic fortune to fall back onto? I mean I kind of believe it because maybe his parents were just loaded. But Ben. Ben's father was a janitor for the Dharma initiative and when they go into his drawer he has millions of dollars and several fake documents which probably cost him a fortune. On top of that, Miles tries to coerce him into getting $4 million (I think it was 4? Maybe 5? Cant remember).
Where the hell did all their money come from???
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How the hell are Ben and Charles Whitmore so damn rich if they spent their entire lives on the island? Charles spent at least 20-30 years on the island, leaves, and somehow just has a gigantic fortune to fall back onto? I mean I kind of believe it because maybe his parents were just loaded. But Ben. Ben's father was a janitor for the Dharma initiative and when they go into his drawer he has millions of dollars and several fake documents which probably cost him a fortune. On top of that, Miles tries to coerce him into getting $4 million (I think it was 4? Maybe 5? Cant remember).
Where the hell did all their money come from???
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Original reception to the ending?
I just finished watching the show for the first time. First of all, this was a masterpiece. Haven’t had this much fun watching a show in a while.
But also, the ending was SO much better than I expected. I had heard it was controversial upon release and when I did some research apparently people thought the characters were dead the whole time?!?! If anyone was watching on release can you tell me if this was genuinely what most people thought? I feel like there’s no way it was misunderstood that badly by so many people, especially considering Jack’s dad literally says “everything you experienced was real”.
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I just finished watching the show for the first time. First of all, this was a masterpiece. Haven’t had this much fun watching a show in a while.
But also, the ending was SO much better than I expected. I had heard it was controversial upon release and when I did some research apparently people thought the characters were dead the whole time?!?! If anyone was watching on release can you tell me if this was genuinely what most people thought? I feel like there’s no way it was misunderstood that badly by so many people, especially considering Jack’s dad literally says “everything you experienced was real”.
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I always find it funny
How Charlie Hume is named after Charlie Pace but also shares a name with his grandfather who both of his parents despise 😂
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How Charlie Hume is named after Charlie Pace but also shares a name with his grandfather who both of his parents despise 😂
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LOST’s finale is a MISUNDERSTOOD Masterpiece.
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A MISUNDERSTOOD Masterpiece | Lost’s Ending
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How did the Temple Others (and Jacob/Richard) leave the Island?
It always didn't make sense to me how the Temple group ever got off-Island. Not just the Temple people, but Jacob and Richard, too. I don’t know if there’s an “official” explanation from interviews/extras, but I haven’t seen one.
I don't think it can be the donkey wheel, because...
1. It was sealed/hidden for a long time (until Dharma got close enough, and Ben later blew the cave open), so it doesn’t explain things like Richard visiting baby Locke or Jacob showing up in characters’ pre-Island lives.
2. Even if someone used it to leave, how would they reliably get back? The only group that clearly has regular off-Island transport (motorboats/submarine) seems like the main Others group.
I can handwave and pretend that “Jacob (heck maybe even Richard) can teleport / do supernatural exits,” but then what about Temple-associated people like Ilana and Bram?
What’s your headcanon (or citations/interview answers if they exist) on how the Temple faction/Jacob/Richard traveled off-Island and returned?
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It always didn't make sense to me how the Temple group ever got off-Island. Not just the Temple people, but Jacob and Richard, too. I don’t know if there’s an “official” explanation from interviews/extras, but I haven’t seen one.
I don't think it can be the donkey wheel, because...
1. It was sealed/hidden for a long time (until Dharma got close enough, and Ben later blew the cave open), so it doesn’t explain things like Richard visiting baby Locke or Jacob showing up in characters’ pre-Island lives.
2. Even if someone used it to leave, how would they reliably get back? The only group that clearly has regular off-Island transport (motorboats/submarine) seems like the main Others group.
I can handwave and pretend that “Jacob (heck maybe even Richard) can teleport / do supernatural exits,” but then what about Temple-associated people like Ilana and Bram?
What’s your headcanon (or citations/interview answers if they exist) on how the Temple faction/Jacob/Richard traveled off-Island and returned?
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