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The misandry denialism staircase

I've noticed that there are different levels of misandry denialism people can have, sometimes multiple at the same time. I call this the misandry denialism staircase.


These are the different levels of misandry denial, from highest to lowest:

1. Misandry isn’t real.

2. Misandry is real, but it's harmless.

3. Misandry is real, but it isn’t important and causes little harm.

4. Misandry is real and harmful, but it isn’t systemic, societal, and institutional.

5. Misandry is real, harmful, and systemic, but it is just a side effect of patriarchy.

6. Misandry is real, harmful, and systemic, but it stems from sexism against women and misogyny.
7. Misandry is real, harmful, and systemic, but we need to focus on misogyny.


The most common are the first three or four.

Ideally, people would recognize that both misogyny and misandry are real, harmful, and systemic, and need to be actively combatted, called out, and recognized.

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How the Don Gave the ABC a Giant Cheque and Burned Their Temple Down Because They Had Been Burning Us for Years

The room was packed, polite, and utterly convinced they were in for a thoughtful panel on “Reimagining Patriarchy in Late-Stage Capitalism.” Sensible haircuts, ethically sourced linen, voices tuned to permanent concern. The kind of crowd that nods along to everything, as long as it’s wrapped in the right moral packaging.

The Don stood up in the back row, calm as a podcaster dropping a hot take.

“Quick question,” he began, voice precise, measured, the kind of tone that makes you lean in. “If the patriarchy is so oppressive, why does the state pay you six-figure salaries to complain about it while actual productive citizens subsidise your entire grievance economy?”

The room froze. A few nervous laughs. Someone whispered, “It’s just a contrarian bit-probably some podcast stunt.”

That’s when Ugly Wayne emerged from the back like a freight train dressed for the wrong funeral.

He was hauling the six-foot styrofoam cheque high above his head, grunting with each step.

Ugly had tried his best to blend in—he’d raided an op shop for what he imagined a left-leaning adjunct professor might wear to one of these things: a corduroy blazer two sizes too small (arms straining at the seams), a faded Fair Trade cotton shirt with the buttons gaping over his chest, khaki chinos that stopped three inches above his ankles, and a knitted beanie pulled low even though it was indoors. The whole outfit looked like it had been assembled in the dark by someone who’d only seen academics on TV.

A knot of Antifa types—man-bun weaklings and buzz-cut strongwomen—had been trailing him since he’d accidentally shortcut through their unrelated protest outside the train station. He’d refused to apologise after one of them yelled “Hey, check your privilege!” and he’d replied, without thinking, “Mate, I’m just trying to get to the talk.”

Now they were on him for misgendering them, clawing at the cheque, shouting about “fascist props” and trying to tear it down.

Ugly just kept plowing, cheque wobbling but intact. The too-small blazer ripped at the shoulder with a loud RRRIP. Buttons popped off the shirt like gunfire. The beanie slid down over his eyes.

He scattered them like bowling pins, reached the stage, and slammed the cheque down.

In perfect Comic Sans it read:

PAY TO THE ORDER OF: The Sisterhood of Perpetual Outrage AMOUNT: One Lifetime Supply of Welfare MEMO: Courtesy of the Taxpaying Serfs You Despise

The Don—having somehow slipped from the back row to the stage without anyone noticing—took the cheque and presented it to the lead speaker with a theatrical bow. “Well played you deserve it.”

The audience gasped like he’d just murdered a kitten.

That’s when they started to realise this wasn’t a podcast guest gone rogue. This was something else.

The lead speaker lunged for the cheque. The Don spun away. The cheque caught the lighting rig. Rig toppled. Hot par can kissed velvet curtain.

Instant inferno.

The Don used the cheque like a matador’s cape as three presenters charged. Perfect pirouette. Cheque flipped. Presenters barrelled into the front row.

“Clock time is the scam!” he bellowed incomprehensibly. “Your entire moral economy is literally on fire and you’re still performing victimhood. This is beautiful!”

The room erupted—not in applause, but in confusion, panic, the dawning horror that they’d invited a wolf into their sheep convention.

Security mobilised. Stampede.

We slipped out the side door, circled behind the bins.

The Don dropped into half-lotus, calm as ever.

“Think with your body, man. Your mind won’t save you now.”

The rest you know if you had been paying attention to the news: fire-hose baptism, soaked Antifa man buns, bike exfiltration.

The welfare cheque burned to ash. The viral clip still circulates.

And the audience?

They went home that night and, for the first time, wondered if maybe-for a fleeting instant-the moral high ground wasn’t as solid as they’d been told.

If you’re reading this and you’ve
spent your life watching less capable people leapfrog you because they checked the right boxes or performed the right pieties— know this: the temple is already burning.

You can stand outside and warm your hands, or you can walk inside and help it fall.

Your to-do list is a suicide note written by society. And sometimes the only honest response is to short-circuit the bastard and let the sparks do the talking.

Clock time is the scam. And the scam, thank God, is highly flammable.

More stories that burn the hypocrisy coming. Join r/FlammableWords for sharp fiction and discussion that doesn't kneel. Post your own-dark, funny or brutal shorts. The rig hates being mocked. Let's keep giving it reasons.

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Is "Believe Women" Misandrist?

I think without a doubt it is. And equally I think "believe men" is equally misogynistic as well. Both genders are capable of lying and deceiving, playing victim, etc. but the notion someone should be believed purely for gender only and not based on the actual facts and evidence isn't only stupid, but downright dangerous. It's what leads to false accusations and unwarranted imprisonments. It completely disregards due process for accused men/boys who may be potentially innocent and many abusive, predatory women have used it to their advantage. It also not only lets predators (of both genders) walk free, but makes it that much harder for both male and female victims alike to get justice; male victims will continue to be ignored and ridiculed and be reluctant to come forward with their stories, while female victims will be accused be of seeking fame and money. Blindly believing either men or women is equally foolish and dangerous. This slogan is even worse when it's modified to "believe all women." Which is just asinine, literally believing every single one? Sorry, but every woman and man for that matter is capable of telling dangerous lies and blindly believing all of either gender purely for that alone?

It's personally triggering for me as well, as it brings back painful memories of back in the 90s when a female student lied about me spitting on her (which I swear I didn't do), and I nearly got beaten in the schoolyard over it. Unfortunately other men/boys who were accused haven't been so fortunate. Imagine how much worse what happened to me could've been if this slogan had been a thing at the time.

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Thoughts on a Pizzey Day T-shirt

Thoughts on a Pizzey Day T-shirt




What would be your thoughts on a Pizzey Day T-shirt with the following words:




Front: Happy Pizzey Day

19 February, 1939

Back: #SupportAllVictims

Defend the rights of all victims of domestic violence



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What makes you think society is gynocentric? Or what makes you think is it not?

Gynocentrism is not matriarchy. It doesn't mean that women have more rights or anything. Gynocentrism is simply the prioritization of women's feelings, needs and safety over men's. For example, saying "Women and children first" is gynocentric.

What makes you feel that you live in a gynocentric environment, or not if you think that's not the case?

Additional questions: Do you prioritize the needs and the feelings of the women in your life over your own? Do you wish society was less gynocentric? Do you wish people in general cared more about you and your feelings? Do you think men and boys should start sticking up for each other more?

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If anyone here needs general guidance on civil, employment, matrimonial, criminal issues, or any legal difficulty, you can feel free to DM.

I’m an advocate practicing in and around Thane, Mumbai, Navi Mumbai, and Raigad.
I often see people here talking about cases that seem stuck for years or not moving at all, and a lot of that comes down to not knowing what the next procedural step should be.
If someone is feeling genuinely stuck or confused about how their matter is progressing or you need just legal consultation you can DM me and I’ll try to help with general guidance or clarity on possible next steps in affordable price (not soliciting work, just sharing perspective).
Hope this helps someone who’s feeling lost in the process.

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From jokes to “truth”: how casual media shapes perceptions of men

I know mainstream media openly pushes feminist ideology and normalizes casual male bashing. That part isn’t new anymore. We’re used to men being portrayed as toxic, incompetent, or disposable.

But what worries me more are the soft, subtle narratives that people laugh off as “just jokes.”

Look at memes and reels:
“Boys vs girls” memes where the boy is always shown as a clueless, irresponsible idiot who can’t handle basic life, while the girl is portrayed as diligent, mature, emotionally intelligent, and competent. The man is chaos, the woman is order. Repeat this long enough and it stops being a joke, it becomes a belief.

Or those posts saying “Every man prefers daughters over sons” because daughters are supposedly loving, emotionally warm, and loyal, while sons are framed as rowdy, difficult, emotionally distant, or burdensome. Why is it socially acceptable to casually imply that male children are less affectionate, less meaningful, or less valuable?

Individually, these things seem silly. Harmless. Meme worthy. But repetition matters. This stuff slowly injects the idea that men are inherently stupid, emotionally deficient, and inferior, while women are naturally better human beings. And once that idea settles in, everything else becomes justified bias in laws, lack of empathy for men, dismissing male suffering, treating men as replaceable.

What makes it worse is that if you point this out, people immediately say you’re overthinking or being insecure. But propaganda doesn’t always scream. Sometimes it whispers. Sometimes it comes wrapped as humor.
So I’m genuinely asking:

Has anyone else noticed this pattern, or am I supposed to believe this constant drip feed of “men dumb, women superior” messaging has no effect at all?
Because from where I’m standing, it feels very deliberate.

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Why do men comply with mandatory military service?

Mandatory military service happens in many countries all over the world. Starting from filling out a paper to being killed in the trenches. Why is it that men simply accept this blatant discrimination? If I was in that situation, I would fight back with everything I have.

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I hate what dating has become and

I blame everyone who had a hand in its mutilation. I never want to make anyone uncomfortable. Any time someone tried to peer pressure a friend of mine to do something, I’d speak up and tell them to fuck off. I’ve always tried to be professional at work, and my normal goofy self off work.

I’ve never been a coward.

I never thought it was weird or creepy to cold approach someone and have conversations. How else do you meet people? I do it everywhere with men, but when it comes to asking a woman for her number, or anything else. Now I have to consider so much that I just don’t do it or if I’m about to… my brain reminds me. What if she thinks I’m ugly, which would then constitute me approaching as creepy. I end up changing so much of who I am that I act like someone I’m not because I’m an intimidating looking guy. I shave my head because I’d rather accept being bald than hold on to whatever strand of hair would be left. I’ve got tattoos and bags under my eyes from working graveyard shift.

A woman will smile at me a few times but I’ve taught myself to not assume it’s anything but sometimes I slip up. I just cold approached a woman and as I started speaking, I immediately asked about something else. The fact that I did that infuriates me because I’ve never been a fucking coward.

I’ve ingrained in my brain that all women have boyfriends, so I treat everyone the same. I’ve been single 12 years and I want a family. I want a kid to eventually pass my father’s ranch down to. I want the name my father gave me to continue on long after I’ve died, I want to leave something behind.

Listen to me, ignore the people who say love just found them. It doesn’t just find you, you have to go look for it.

You have to put in the effort if you want more out of life. You get one chance at it, don’t waste it.

I know how it sounds after us men have been getting shit on for god knows how long. Why not let it all fall apart… is that really what we want? To see everything collapse?

I’m sorry if this is completely incoherent, it’s 4:47 in the morning, and I’ve only had 4 hours of sleep between 16 hour shifts.

I don’t know who needs to hear it, but just because we’re men. That doesn’t mean we’re monsters like how they say we are. We build, we protect, and we love. Don’t let people shame you for celebrating victories, there is nothing wrong with boys being boys.

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Are the boys all right?

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I grabbed that pic from Shoe0nhead's most recent video. I know, the question is about their "dream job," but I still find it disturbing that the number one dream of teen boys is to be a social media star or professional athlete. Are boys no longer being serious about their futures? When I look at medical and law school enrollment, women are dominating. Have we created a society that somehow doesn't expect boys to do anything? I'm really trying to understand this, because it seems like everyone is okay with boys not growing up, and a world of Peter Pans is not a healthy world.

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Great Rant About "Women And Children"

> "Yes!! It bloody rips my knitting that phrase, which implies that men are deserving of being maimed or murdered and we shrug it off!! At what point does someone age out of being a child and then we’re not meant to care any more? Also it implies that women and children cannot be active members of a group, they’re just baggage."

Thought I'd share this. A post I found on Threads where a user (a female one to boot) was criticizing the "women and children" phrase. Once in a while you find postings of intelligence and meaning on social media, and this is one such post I thought was worth sharing here. I've ranted before how much I hate this phrase which is so terribly sexist against not only men for obvious reasons, but also women with how infantalizing it is to them. I never even thought of that, but this person is right in how this phrase doesn't even really acknowledge either women or children as people, but as mere baggage. It's equally misandrist and misogynistic; de-valuing the lives of men/boys and making it as if their deaths or suffering doesn't matter, and it also infantalizes women/girls and denies them agency. It's an antiquated phrase that's long overdue to be stricken from the public lexicon. To me being equal and egalitarian is to equally acknowledge both groups and help both out, not one or the other.

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Incongruencies

It's genuinely difficult to tell what's a psyop and what's actual ignorance. Incongruencies are seemingly a part of women's natural mode of thought (feeling/illogical expression) but on a world wide scale, well.. it's catastrophic.

When does "women be tripping" cross over into intentional territory.

I think answering this question would solve a lot of cognitive dissonance.


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Rant: Homeless Shelter PSA: Only featuring women

We have a homeless shelter in my area that over the Christmas holidays put out a couple of PSAs on their Facebook page> I have donated to them over the years, not a lot of money, but a little. That stops this year. Most of the clientele are men, as men make up the vast majority of the homeless in our area.

All their PSAs featured only women. I also found out they donate a portion of the money to other shelters in the area who ONLY service women

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