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I am not out to change the world just passing through.
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Whoever wants to benefit from my pass can.
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ned
What group think?
What most people define as “objective” isnt “objective” they change their hypothesis to fit the data.
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Otherwise far worse they change the data
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limitlessenergy369
I have my peers. Fuck your group think.
I just said there are worse threats to your progress than James DeMeo.
For all you criticize him, you benefit from his work. Your improvements to his devices wouldn't be possible without his prior work. You would be working from WR's schematic.
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Second generation orgone subjected children
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I dont benefit from his work. I benefit from WR.
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limitlessenergy369
What most people define as “objective” isnt “objective” they change their hypothesis to fit the data.
Yup, like the metric fraud, which has nothing to do with the size or shape of the earth and everything to do with 13 inches = 33 centimeters numerological cukt insanity
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What I do love about JDM is that he got before and afters of patients in accumulator 💫
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I sadly have no one who believes only myself and I dont have a “before” unless I purposefully injury myself
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limitlessenergy369
I sadly have no one who believes only myself and I dont have a “before” unless I purposefully injury myself
We are lacking in community, in moral support, but we must not steal attention for making things worse.
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We need to investigate. How did he die???
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Did you meet him? We tried paying him to come do a demonstration but he was insulted by it… massive ego
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Yeah infowars is trash
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I contacted infowars multiple times anonymously through TAILS.ISO and gave them leads on building the things and never had a response back. Also tried to go to other “journalists”. Same thing. Their CIA liaison probably intercepts the communications lol
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limitlessenergy369
We need to investigate. How did he die???
A lot of journalism is letting people talk.
It doesn't work like in an interrogation chamber or in a strip club. Honest journalism, even gonzo, records what happens with integrity. A gonzo exercises more influence than a conventional journalist, but it's beyond unethical and into the criminal to torture or bribe. Journalists with less integrity will offer frivolous rewards or money to get someone to speak, but the testimonies never have integrity, only skew. An honest journalist can't use that kind of testimony for anything other than proof that the person can be bought or extorted.

If no one's releasing information,
there's no end of valid reason for maintaining privacy, especially in this climate.
You need to offer the person real and tangible help that they can use in order to get an honest answer out of them.
If you can't do that,
you don't get the news story.
Either someone else breaks the story or it stays buried urban legend or such.

Lesson from my freshman college journalism class
You're a journalist
They already don't like you
So be nice
You're not like the police or lawyers that they don't like either because the average person sees the need for police and lawyers but not journalists
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limitlessenergy369
Did you meet him? We tried paying him to come do a demonstration but he was insulted by it… massive ego
He was Research Director almost 45 years, published countless books and journals, sold more and cheap, hosted Lou Hochberg Awards, and that is a short random list, from memory, not active research. For his many successes and unmatched feats of scholarship, he will likely go underappreciated or thoroughly unappreciated.

He was 57 before I corresponded with him. I only caught slices of the last fifteen years of his life. Whatever ill I could have to speak of him personally is just that, personal.
I appreciate his work and chose not to interfere. I sent him my work and news of my exploits at various times and got varying positive and negative feedback. Some criticisms I accepted; some I rejected; some encouragement, I accepted; some I did not. I never wasted time arguing with him or seeking his public endorsement. My work was always in support of his. Even where he was patently wrong like 9/11, chemtrails, NWO, I was his apologist.

If you get 10% wrong on a test, that's still 90% right, an A grade, and they pass people with 30% wrong remember.
I'd have to say he got a lot more right than 90% and it took me years to track down obscure out of print books to corroborate his scholarly writings.
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I need to understand the technology or I'm just a technician, not much of an experimenter, and really not a scientist at all.

What would be really useful are plans for the devices.
We have WR's schematic in Cancer Biopathy.
Did JDM's devices come with plans for repair, building from scratch?
Can you provide schematic and details for all parts and why you chose which replacements?

For my learning, it's better for me to have the parts and plans and build myself.
If the plans don't exist on paper yet, that costs efforts and Resource to produce, but Anything leaned may be lost otherwise. JDM never published any schematics for the services, which is another reason I Neve bought, though neither is I ever question him on it because I was pursuing other research.
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limitlessenergy369
I contacted infowars multiple times anonymously through TAILS.ISO and gave them leads on building the things and never had a response back. Also tried to go to other “journalists”. Same thing. Their CIA liaison probably intercepts the communications lol
I tried them back in 2008 with free energy.
They're busy (like JDM).
They're really news reporters, not research scholars, not scientists.
They did some interesting work around Fukushima with Geiger-Muller counters but I don't expect them to do a report on how the GM counter works, let alone a Reich-Geiger-Muller counter.

JDM really did not appreciate AJ.
I was AJ's apologist as much as JDM's & I tried to patch things up, but AJ never got an interview with JDM.
Like with you, JDM would have wanted a spot on PBS or CNN, not on Infowars.

AJ's done some amazing interviews but it's more important for me to learn and publish than to expend energy trying to influence people like AJ or JDM who became figureheads for Institutions.

I always felt AJ's strategy was in many ways functionalist. Orgonomic sciences have always been decentralized, even as much as so many point to WR.
I forget where in the literature now, because my library has been locked away so many years, it says for people to start their own groups locally and to publish their own work independently.
I was in WeAreChange and AJ was very friendly to us. We were separate, independent, grassroots. AJ could endorse that. He can't go endorse Weird Science. After he's done taking calls from listeners like you and me, he goes and does an interview with a two star general on plans for WWIII 2025-2045. I can't blame him.
His attitude is the same as the orgonomists. People need to publish their own news. We use each other's info as needed but we don't attack each other.

There are many news outlets where you could speak already, Mel Fabregas for one maybe, but getting interviewed by the press is no easier than getting an interview for the press. It's the same answer with Infowars as with orgonomy: publish your own work.
I've been gonzoing journalism since 2005, a year before I started reading WR, two years before I read JDM.

The orgonomist networks fell apart.
There weren't many left before JDM passed. OBRL, ACO, WR Museum, a handful of others.
Now we have @orgonecontinuum

I don't know if you understand that WeAreChange fell apart ten years ago.
Luke Rudkowski stole the name basically, stole from all the other WAC volunteers. That was AJ's support. Since then he fell into alcoholism, lost his wife and kids. He's been in court for Sandy Hook. Julian Assange is rotting and Edward Snowden is still hiding while Q hunts him.

For what it's worth, same with AJ as with JDM, you may as well ask a beggar in the street for a dollar, may as well ask a guy getting divorced of he can give you advice to save your marriage, may as well ask someone about to be hanged to give charity.

They were both, AJ and JDM, marked for death long ago. You will benefit from researching Targeted Individuals, gang-stalking, V2K technology. It's a shame JDM and AJ couldn't network, but JDM would not correct his 9/11 work, his position on chemtrails, or tolerate discussion of NWO globalism.
Likewise, AJ probably will never read WR's esoterica, none of the journals, few of the worthy biographies if any. I spent thousands at JDM's bookstore over the last fifteen years. I was more likely to get an interview with JDM than AJ.

The important thing I try not to forget is that we're all on the same side but fighting on different fronts. Now average people have been calling war crime for two years, but it's been war against The People much longer. In war, there's little time for mourning or celebration, and no time for infighting.
I swear on my grandfather's WWII stories they take people out back and shoot them, or shoot them dead on the spot, no court martial, and that's WWII commissioned and non-commissioned officers, long before grunts started fragging people like that in Vietnam.

Think of specialty in the police. Two police in different divisions may work on the same block but never interact: one does traffic and one does parking.
It's important that we recognize what we're asking of each other. The cops use orgonomic psychology. Letting go, surrender, is a big part of that.
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limitlessenergy369
I contacted infowars multiple times anonymously through TAILS.ISO and gave them leads on building the things and never had a response back. Also tried to go to other “journalists”. Same thing. Their CIA liaison probably intercepts the communications lol
That's all the AJ and JDM apology I can muster this morning. I tried for years to get them to reconcile, from 2007 to 2015 at least. I had to do my own work and that's where it stays. There's a saying in 12 Steps Recovery support groups: the only thing I can control is myself. The world is in crisis. It's necessary that we not fall into it.

Journalists are under attack. Scientists are under attack. We're all under attack. The best thing you can do in my opinion is keep reading the orgonomists, not just the biophysicists, but the classical Reichian psychiatrists.
Understand the people you engage.