Great new episode from a bit fruity. Inevitably made me think of Contrapoints and the deep uneasy feeling she has come to rise within me.
First, this is the ep: https://youtu.be/dGjM44xI_3k
Also the gorgeous and talented Gianmarco is there. What a treat.
So as we know Contrapoints has appeared twice in the A Bit Fruity podcast to talk about trans issues and jk. So that's where the mental connection comes from.
In this episode Matt and his guests talk about celebrities, the entertainment industry and their reactions (or lack thereof) to the current political situation of the US AND the ongoing Palestinian genocide. Really recommend the watch. They discuss how the Gaza genocide after October 7th had a great chilling and silencing effect among celebrities across all the entertainment industry. They give their own insider look at it. And most importantly they relate this chilling effect to the recent trend of celebs not even confronting US fascism at their doorstep. (With the exception of some big celebs that have used their massive influence to talk a lot about both Gaza and US fascism like Mark Ruffalo)
While watching I couldn't stop wrestling with the uneasy feelings I've been having towards Contra for a while now, that were massively amplified by her I/P post. For years I have followed Contrapoints with such love and true, true admiration. I have considered her my favorite YouTuber (not even YouTuber, just general internet creator) leaps ahead of anyone else. Because she was the vanguard. I mean no one does it like she does it. Though many, many, many, have tried to copy the formula.
But as I said, this episode has really brought back into focus the stark contrast between the celebs that have talked and stood for Gaza and the ones who have not. And sorry to this subreddit, but things can get pretty sycophantic around here with mother. To me it is clear she has been in the mostly silent camp. She has focused her attention elsewhere. She has prioritized many other things before this one, while others have not. That's just how I see it. This inevitably has generated within me resentments towards her.
These feelings have only become amplified by her whole "I'm a Lib arc" (TANGENT: I really really really find it hard to believe she is a true LIB believer. She sure loves saying she is lol. But I personally suspect several reasons for it 1) She is a pragmatic person and is trying to save her ass from looming US fascism and she believes "libbing out" to be her best chance at it. Fair on that point, I don't personally agree with the approach but hey, fair. 2) she gets a bit of a kick from triggering the lefties let's be real she loves some edge. So yeah she strikes me as too much of a "I'm not sheeple" girlie to truly be "vote blue no matter who, Wakanda forever, blue MAGA Lib." She strikes me much more as a nihilistic (relaaaatable) and pragmatic "vote blue now no matter who plz God and all that is holy or we die". END OF TANGENT).
So yeah, these feelings have only become amplified by her whole "I'm a Lib arc". She really comes across as a spoiled rich American who cares enough to save and fight for her ass (LGBT issues) but not enough to extend that kindness outside of the American empire to the most destitute people of the earth right now. Palestinians. And this feels like a betrayal, yes. I think the ideals that Contrapoints has defended over the years are betrayed by this smallness in her words and actions outside of her own interests. (Even the aesthetics she has created feel betrayed to me, but that's too much to explain lol).
So that's where I'm at. It's been years of the genocide, maybe a year since the I/P post. I go through moments where I ignore all of these feelings and tune back to her, but they don't last. The illusion gets shattered when she comments flippantly on the issue or starts to "Lib out". So much pain rides in this issue. So much of the world's soul rests in it.
Anyway I just find this all sad and disappointing. It changes her art for me. It rings more and more hollow. I still love what she has
First, this is the ep: https://youtu.be/dGjM44xI_3k
Also the gorgeous and talented Gianmarco is there. What a treat.
So as we know Contrapoints has appeared twice in the A Bit Fruity podcast to talk about trans issues and jk. So that's where the mental connection comes from.
In this episode Matt and his guests talk about celebrities, the entertainment industry and their reactions (or lack thereof) to the current political situation of the US AND the ongoing Palestinian genocide. Really recommend the watch. They discuss how the Gaza genocide after October 7th had a great chilling and silencing effect among celebrities across all the entertainment industry. They give their own insider look at it. And most importantly they relate this chilling effect to the recent trend of celebs not even confronting US fascism at their doorstep. (With the exception of some big celebs that have used their massive influence to talk a lot about both Gaza and US fascism like Mark Ruffalo)
While watching I couldn't stop wrestling with the uneasy feelings I've been having towards Contra for a while now, that were massively amplified by her I/P post. For years I have followed Contrapoints with such love and true, true admiration. I have considered her my favorite YouTuber (not even YouTuber, just general internet creator) leaps ahead of anyone else. Because she was the vanguard. I mean no one does it like she does it. Though many, many, many, have tried to copy the formula.
But as I said, this episode has really brought back into focus the stark contrast between the celebs that have talked and stood for Gaza and the ones who have not. And sorry to this subreddit, but things can get pretty sycophantic around here with mother. To me it is clear she has been in the mostly silent camp. She has focused her attention elsewhere. She has prioritized many other things before this one, while others have not. That's just how I see it. This inevitably has generated within me resentments towards her.
These feelings have only become amplified by her whole "I'm a Lib arc" (TANGENT: I really really really find it hard to believe she is a true LIB believer. She sure loves saying she is lol. But I personally suspect several reasons for it 1) She is a pragmatic person and is trying to save her ass from looming US fascism and she believes "libbing out" to be her best chance at it. Fair on that point, I don't personally agree with the approach but hey, fair. 2) she gets a bit of a kick from triggering the lefties let's be real she loves some edge. So yeah she strikes me as too much of a "I'm not sheeple" girlie to truly be "vote blue no matter who, Wakanda forever, blue MAGA Lib." She strikes me much more as a nihilistic (relaaaatable) and pragmatic "vote blue now no matter who plz God and all that is holy or we die". END OF TANGENT).
So yeah, these feelings have only become amplified by her whole "I'm a Lib arc". She really comes across as a spoiled rich American who cares enough to save and fight for her ass (LGBT issues) but not enough to extend that kindness outside of the American empire to the most destitute people of the earth right now. Palestinians. And this feels like a betrayal, yes. I think the ideals that Contrapoints has defended over the years are betrayed by this smallness in her words and actions outside of her own interests. (Even the aesthetics she has created feel betrayed to me, but that's too much to explain lol).
So that's where I'm at. It's been years of the genocide, maybe a year since the I/P post. I go through moments where I ignore all of these feelings and tune back to her, but they don't last. The illusion gets shattered when she comments flippantly on the issue or starts to "Lib out". So much pain rides in this issue. So much of the world's soul rests in it.
Anyway I just find this all sad and disappointing. It changes her art for me. It rings more and more hollow. I still love what she has
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The Epidemic of Celebrity Cowardice (with Gianmarco Soresi and Caroline Kwan)
Neil Patrick Harris would like to make art that is “apolitical.” Sydney Sweeney “is not a political person.” Jelly Roll is a “dumb redneck” who we shouldn’t want to hear from, but we will be hearing his thoughts on global events “soon.” Ethan Hawke says we…
been in my life but I guess it's time to move on to new people. (It will be so hard for me not to stan when she gets edgy!!! oh well)
Just needed to express this somewhere and exorcise it from me. Thanks for reading it all if you have :)
ADDENDUM: just in case mother is reading this. I tried not to be malicious here and just wanted to express my feelings. I understand you are just a person and hope everything goes well for you in the future <3. ALSOOOO since you mentioned being in your Baudrillardian era you should check out PlasticPills ( https://youtu.be/R9fpm-lorIU ) He's been on that era for a while and his new video on US fascism through that lens is really cool. In fact I recommend the channel to all the people in this subreddit. (Hopefully it's not too scary for the little libs :P) I find that plasticpills is doing much of the vanguarding of YouTube now and he is not that known!
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Just needed to express this somewhere and exorcise it from me. Thanks for reading it all if you have :)
ADDENDUM: just in case mother is reading this. I tried not to be malicious here and just wanted to express my feelings. I understand you are just a person and hope everything goes well for you in the future <3. ALSOOOO since you mentioned being in your Baudrillardian era you should check out PlasticPills ( https://youtu.be/R9fpm-lorIU ) He's been on that era for a while and his new video on US fascism through that lens is really cool. In fact I recommend the channel to all the people in this subreddit. (Hopefully it's not too scary for the little libs :P) I find that plasticpills is doing much of the vanguarding of YouTube now and he is not that known!
https://redd.it/1rab3zh
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Hyperreal Fascism | Plastic Pills
check https://www.patreon.com/plasticpills or join the channel for my other theory/philosophy content, including an explanation of the "semiotic square".
See the ProPublica story:
https://www.propublica.org/article/kristi-noem-dhs-ad-campaign-strategy-group…
See the ProPublica story:
https://www.propublica.org/article/kristi-noem-dhs-ad-campaign-strategy-group…
Does anyone know the name of the song that plays at the end of Contrapoints's video on conspiracies?
It pops into my head now and then, and I don't see it listed with the soundtracks by OVXX
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It pops into my head now and then, and I don't see it listed with the soundtracks by OVXX
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President Richard Nixon Receives Head-pats Like a Good Boy (1983)
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Conspiratorial Thinking
I don’t know if this post will be considered on topic to comply with this subreddit rules, but I just need to get this off my chest.
With the recent escalation of conflict involving the United States, Israel, Iran, and other Middle Eastern countries, I can’t help but feel hopeless. The scale of what’s happening feels larger than before, and it makes me question the timing and motives behind it.
Part of me wonders whether Trump could be intentionally encouraging or participating in this escalation to shift attention away from his alleged involvement in the Epstein files. I know these regional tensions have existed for years (especially as someone who lives in the region) and this conflict didn’t begin overnight.
I’m aware that I might be doing exactly what Contrapoints described in her “Conspiracy” video: looking for a scapegoat and assigning intentionality to make sense of all of this chaos. It’s easier to believe there’s a clear reason than to accept that events may be unfolding for stupid reasons: just men with unchecked power inflating their egos and flexing their weapons at the expense of innocent
I think I should stop listening to some people in my entourage and stop looking at the Epstein subreddit
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I don’t know if this post will be considered on topic to comply with this subreddit rules, but I just need to get this off my chest.
With the recent escalation of conflict involving the United States, Israel, Iran, and other Middle Eastern countries, I can’t help but feel hopeless. The scale of what’s happening feels larger than before, and it makes me question the timing and motives behind it.
Part of me wonders whether Trump could be intentionally encouraging or participating in this escalation to shift attention away from his alleged involvement in the Epstein files. I know these regional tensions have existed for years (especially as someone who lives in the region) and this conflict didn’t begin overnight.
I’m aware that I might be doing exactly what Contrapoints described in her “Conspiracy” video: looking for a scapegoat and assigning intentionality to make sense of all of this chaos. It’s easier to believe there’s a clear reason than to accept that events may be unfolding for stupid reasons: just men with unchecked power inflating their egos and flexing their weapons at the expense of innocent
I think I should stop listening to some people in my entourage and stop looking at the Epstein subreddit
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ContraPoints is a Political Youtuber
Why is this Reddit removing political posts? Especially when it has to with Trans rights and left-side politics. Wouldn’t this be the place to discuss it?
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Why is this Reddit removing political posts? Especially when it has to with Trans rights and left-side politics. Wouldn’t this be the place to discuss it?
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Social media and Cringe
I really like Cringe video as its such a nuance but relatable topic for everyone to relate to, on reaction videos or mascoting, and the lowcal culture
I do think there needs to be more discussion on how social media can create cringe or give platforms for cringe, you can get people who are either Toxic and take advantage of people thst create stuff that looks cringe but still monetise
Or anyone having a bad day will have embarrassing moments recorded and shared everywhere
Or you can get people who are lonely individuals who do feel alienated and do embarrassing cringe videos who want to get some attention
And social media creating this ecosystem that create it
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I really like Cringe video as its such a nuance but relatable topic for everyone to relate to, on reaction videos or mascoting, and the lowcal culture
I do think there needs to be more discussion on how social media can create cringe or give platforms for cringe, you can get people who are either Toxic and take advantage of people thst create stuff that looks cringe but still monetise
Or anyone having a bad day will have embarrassing moments recorded and shared everywhere
Or you can get people who are lonely individuals who do feel alienated and do embarrassing cringe videos who want to get some attention
And social media creating this ecosystem that create it
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Did anyone else only watch/read Twilight AFTER watching Natalie's video? + What was your experience?
I want to start by saying I LOVE the Twilight video, definitely one of Natalie's best. It's a much needed defence of female sexuality in media and I adore it for that.
Personally, I went into it having never seen the Twilight movies. Around the early 2010s, I read half of the first book and got bored, but I was pretty young, so wasn't exactly the target audience. But as a girl who spent her mid teens on Wattpad, I was still able to resonate with the themes of the Twilight video, and it made me respect the books as a huge influence on the dark romance genre.
One weekend, I decided to binge the Twilight movies with my partner. I went into it thinking "this is probably going to be trashy, but I'm sure if I don't take it too seriously I'll be able to appreciate it for what it is". But in all honestly, I completely regretted the decision to binge it half way through the second movie.
For me at least, the romance stuff is too sparse and too rushed to be titilating (particularly after the first movie). Edward and Jacob are insufferable. Bella, while definitely over-hated, is constantly making baffling decisions. And the fantasy plot is horribly undercooked. Really took me out of it.
Don't get me wrong, I can still appreciate the importance of Twilight, and I definitely don't bash people that like it. I also appreciate that Natalie's video was really more about defending what Twilight represented and its cultural influence than the franchise itself. But beyond that, even pushing past the "dark romance" of it all, I just couldn't stand it.
Curious if anyone else had an experience like this though?
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I want to start by saying I LOVE the Twilight video, definitely one of Natalie's best. It's a much needed defence of female sexuality in media and I adore it for that.
Personally, I went into it having never seen the Twilight movies. Around the early 2010s, I read half of the first book and got bored, but I was pretty young, so wasn't exactly the target audience. But as a girl who spent her mid teens on Wattpad, I was still able to resonate with the themes of the Twilight video, and it made me respect the books as a huge influence on the dark romance genre.
One weekend, I decided to binge the Twilight movies with my partner. I went into it thinking "this is probably going to be trashy, but I'm sure if I don't take it too seriously I'll be able to appreciate it for what it is". But in all honestly, I completely regretted the decision to binge it half way through the second movie.
For me at least, the romance stuff is too sparse and too rushed to be titilating (particularly after the first movie). Edward and Jacob are insufferable. Bella, while definitely over-hated, is constantly making baffling decisions. And the fantasy plot is horribly undercooked. Really took me out of it.
Don't get me wrong, I can still appreciate the importance of Twilight, and I definitely don't bash people that like it. I also appreciate that Natalie's video was really more about defending what Twilight represented and its cultural influence than the franchise itself. But beyond that, even pushing past the "dark romance" of it all, I just couldn't stand it.
Curious if anyone else had an experience like this though?
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