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Laravel Cloud - Hype train "woo woo!"

Anyone else super hyped for the Laravel Cloud release today? Can't wait to be a Guinea pig :-)

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New Laravel website. First impressions.

First impression ? Bad.
After re-evaluation? Fu*king horrible.

Hijacked scroll, you need to scroll 5 times to move out of a section.
Page down to navigate? Good luck, you will "miss" information that's only visible after you "scroll" a specific section of the page.


Mobile ? I am not even going to start here.

Disc: This is my opinion and does not reflect the opinion of any of my peers.

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Am I the only a bit sad that there is no more a classic Blade MVC starter-kit?

I skimmed through the new starter kits (React, Vue and Livewire) and I like the idea. I think they partially solve the fragmentation problem and confusion that Breeze + Jetstream caused when first launched.

However, I think that they overcomplicate things and for simple applications they are an overkill. I liked the Blade template for breeze because it was "a breeze" to install and super simple to get started with classic MVC apps. Now there is no more a classic MVC approach and I think it would be great to have that for simpler apps that have a lot of backend logic but not too much reactivity.

What do you think?

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Are you worried about the Laravel Ecosystem becoming oversaturated?

We've got Livewire, Inertia, Jetstream, Breeze, Volt, Forge, Vapor, Cloud, and the list goes on.

I get that these tools were designed to solve specific problems, but I worry that as the ecosystem continues to grow, the skill requirement to build Laravel applications will continue to grow.

I'm not saying that we need to go back to basics, or that the Laravel community needs to pick a single stack. But with all of the product names being thrown around, I'm starting to see people getting confused.

I feel like this problem gets exasperated when some of these products feel minimally maintained over time. When's the last time we saw a meaningful update to Horizon, Dusk, Pennant, Mix, or Telescope? Did anyone notice that Laravel Spark isn't even in the product list anymore?

I worry that some of the new features and products coming out are hype trains. I get that they provide value and the Laravel team worked hard on them, but will they see significant additional features, or just minimal maintenance?

What are your guy's thoughts on the direction of Laravel in the recent years? Do you guys share the same concerns?

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Integrating AI into the framework

I was thinking , that AI can integrated in this framework , or other framework, or maybe this thing already exist.
Like for example in debugging, there is an error page that display the error message and file. sometimes it's something simple that a was solved many times ago , and a prompt to ai can solve the problem in minutes.
It can be used to suggest corrections and implement them in a click.

another example is the maker, the code generator , it can be more intelligent , and provide more options to generate every component , improve components , in the command line.

what do you think? is it a good idea? is it something that you would like to see in the future?

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Filament v4 - overall changes and timeframe?

I could not find any timeline mentioned on the Filament site or the v4 alpha GitHub repo.

Also, I want to confirm before I embark on a large project -

\- I know Filament v3 won't work with Tailwind v4. Should I still start off with Laravel V12, and downgrade Tailwind (which I guess means removing it, then re-installing 3.x, to get it to load as Laravel V11 was doing)? OR, should I only use Laravel V11, for that and maybe other reasons? (I am not sure that I will miss out on anything by using V11, although I'd like to know I'm on the version with the longest support timeframe... then again, V12 is a day old, so it might be foolish to use it now.)

\- will it be hard to update to Filament v4? I didn't have time to read all the changes in GitHub, but it seemed a lot of them are smaller updates, not differences in the way it works.

\- any other tips about anticipating Filament v4 would be useful (any groundbreaking new features, or features or practices that will become discouraged/deprecated)


Thanks to anyone who might know any or some of these answers!

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About the new starter kits

I have two Laravel projects. One already has Inertia set up with Breeze, while the other only has APIs in the controllers without any frontend setup.

I'm looking for a way (or a tutorial) to install Inertia on the existing API-only project and properly integrate it. Also, for the project that already has Inertia, I want to update the styling and bring in the new design.

Does anyone know the best approach or have any recommended resources for this?

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What are you thoughts on this Laravel "best practices" article that I see linked every now and again? My personal, albeit small, critique is that it takes subjective opinions and passes them off as how things should always be done. But I'd like to hear your thoughts!
https://github.com/alexeymezenin/laravel-best-practices

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Laravel Lift alternative

Hi


I've discovered Lift :
Lift is a package that boosts your Eloquent Models in Laravel.

It lets you create public properties in Eloquent Models that match your table schema. This makes your models easier to read and work with in any IDE.

It provides a simple way to set up your models, focusing on simplicity and ease of use by using PHP 8’s attributes.

The package depends on Eloquent Events to work. This means the package fits easily into your project without needing any major changes (unless you’ve turned off event triggering).

However, I've tried to implement in on a model, in an existing project, but I did have an issue with a foreign ID, that I never figured to make working.
Two similar unanswered issues in the github repo makes me think this is either unreliable or abandoned.

Do anyone know and use some equivalent package, that allows to define properties and their attributes (fillable, cast, etc...) directly inside the model ?

If you haven't heard about it, have a look at the docs, or the laravel news blog post that describe it :https://laravel-news.com/laravel-lift. I love the idea of this package, but it seems it needs some polishing...

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