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Telegram is not a secure and private messenger: it's a marketing scam used by a lying billionaire to make more money.
Here are some examples of why Telegram is not secure nor private and doesn't keep you safe from big companies, oppressive governments and malicious users
• Telegram does not implement end-to-end encryption in regular chats. This means that Telegram Inc has the keys to decrypt all of your messages and can access them at any moment.
• Telegram is not fully open source. Only the piece of software on your phone is: you don't know what happens once the data leaves your device, because the server-side code is closed source.
• Durov is lying about his struggles with Russian authorities. (He's the Telegram CEO btw) Despite his misleading narrative about being exiled from Russia, 120 trips in and out of there have been documented over the course of 5 years, with some suspicious timings regarding Putin's government halting its struggle to ban Telegram.
• It has been confirmed that Russian oligarchs close to Putin fund Telegram, implying very probable ties with the Kremlin.
• Telegram hands over data to authorities, and then tries to hide it. They have repeatedly collaborated with tribunals, police and interpol by handing many users' data and via censorship. A transparency report has been promised for years to document any instance of data being given to authorities, but only a partial 2024-2025 is available. Telegram Inc's claims about this are intentionally misleading and omissive.
• After recent Durov's arrest in France, Telegram Inc. has decided to collaborate even more with authorities for crimes such as drug dealing and copyright infringement, and there is nothing preventing the list from extending. We've seen what happened with Elon Musk at Twitter, who is gonna stop Durov if he goes full Elmo and helps right wing governments crack down on oppositions?
• Telegram is getting unusable for free users. Ads (often for crypto-scams and ai-generated slop) and premium features/prompts are covering more and more screen space, making Telegram insufferable to use for free users without heavily modified clients.
• Premium is a scam. While it was advertised as the only way to economically sustain Telegram, the truth is that the money is going to Durov's pockets, grown from 11 billion dollars in 2023 to 17 billion in 2025. Stop giving your money to billionaires.
• Telegram doesn't care about security and privacy at all: their priority is making money. The asymmetry of usability and features between free and premium users isn't limited to fancy gimmicks: some privacy options are paywalled as well, like restricting who can send you messages and voice messages, and writing messages as a public channel instead of using your personal account (which used to be a free feature btw).
• Premium membership intentionally weaken users' privacy. The option to restrict who can send you messages doesn't affect premium users, making it easy for stalkers to circumvent it by making multiple VoIP (sim-less numbers) accounts with just one premium subnoscription (a person I know was stalked like this firsthand).
• It's the second time over a short period of time that an exploit has been discovered that allows external accounts to send spam and scams in groupchats where messages are restricted to members-only. This is very concerning, and casts doubts on the robustness of any privacy and security features, since the full telegram source code can't be checked and audited.
• Many "privacy" features do not work as advertised, like the "Restrict saving content" option which doesn't actually restrict anything, since pictures are downloaded and stored unencrypted in the Telegram folder.
TL;DR Telegram is not a secure and private messenger: it's a marketing scam used by a lying billionaire to make more money. You should move away from this platforms.
Far better alternatives include Signal, Session, CWTCH and XMPP for private messengers, and for team chats (Discord-like) there are Element / Matrix and Status (has crypto stuff)
Here are some examples of why Telegram is not secure nor private and doesn't keep you safe from big companies, oppressive governments and malicious users
• Telegram does not implement end-to-end encryption in regular chats. This means that Telegram Inc has the keys to decrypt all of your messages and can access them at any moment.
• Telegram is not fully open source. Only the piece of software on your phone is: you don't know what happens once the data leaves your device, because the server-side code is closed source.
• Durov is lying about his struggles with Russian authorities. (He's the Telegram CEO btw) Despite his misleading narrative about being exiled from Russia, 120 trips in and out of there have been documented over the course of 5 years, with some suspicious timings regarding Putin's government halting its struggle to ban Telegram.
• It has been confirmed that Russian oligarchs close to Putin fund Telegram, implying very probable ties with the Kremlin.
• Telegram hands over data to authorities, and then tries to hide it. They have repeatedly collaborated with tribunals, police and interpol by handing many users' data and via censorship. A transparency report has been promised for years to document any instance of data being given to authorities, but only a partial 2024-2025 is available. Telegram Inc's claims about this are intentionally misleading and omissive.
• After recent Durov's arrest in France, Telegram Inc. has decided to collaborate even more with authorities for crimes such as drug dealing and copyright infringement, and there is nothing preventing the list from extending. We've seen what happened with Elon Musk at Twitter, who is gonna stop Durov if he goes full Elmo and helps right wing governments crack down on oppositions?
• Telegram is getting unusable for free users. Ads (often for crypto-scams and ai-generated slop) and premium features/prompts are covering more and more screen space, making Telegram insufferable to use for free users without heavily modified clients.
• Premium is a scam. While it was advertised as the only way to economically sustain Telegram, the truth is that the money is going to Durov's pockets, grown from 11 billion dollars in 2023 to 17 billion in 2025. Stop giving your money to billionaires.
• Telegram doesn't care about security and privacy at all: their priority is making money. The asymmetry of usability and features between free and premium users isn't limited to fancy gimmicks: some privacy options are paywalled as well, like restricting who can send you messages and voice messages, and writing messages as a public channel instead of using your personal account (which used to be a free feature btw).
• Premium membership intentionally weaken users' privacy. The option to restrict who can send you messages doesn't affect premium users, making it easy for stalkers to circumvent it by making multiple VoIP (sim-less numbers) accounts with just one premium subnoscription (a person I know was stalked like this firsthand).
• It's the second time over a short period of time that an exploit has been discovered that allows external accounts to send spam and scams in groupchats where messages are restricted to members-only. This is very concerning, and casts doubts on the robustness of any privacy and security features, since the full telegram source code can't be checked and audited.
• Many "privacy" features do not work as advertised, like the "Restrict saving content" option which doesn't actually restrict anything, since pictures are downloaded and stored unencrypted in the Telegram folder.
TL;DR Telegram is not a secure and private messenger: it's a marketing scam used by a lying billionaire to make more money. You should move away from this platforms.
Far better alternatives include Signal, Session, CWTCH and XMPP for private messengers, and for team chats (Discord-like) there are Element / Matrix and Status (has crypto stuff)
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I'm still gonna be on Tele, don't get me wrong, but be aware that it's not the most secure place in the world.
Interesting, if alarming read. There are a lot of claims in here I have criticisms of, but they're at least worth reading and examining.
Cool fact! If someone tells you that state or national parks are useless, you're illegally allowed to flay them!
(Being illegal makes it cooler)
(Being illegal makes it cooler)
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(And yes, I know it's more complicated than this, but I'm already pushing the limits of legibility here lol)