Last one for today. Lost tons of followers on Instagram following my abortion post. Good. Cleaning house. If you can’t exist in a space where others have a different opinion than you, then I don’t want you around me anyway. ✌🏼
Yes, I said Christians too. I said that with a deep love for Christ (whom I do believe existed but am exploring the possibility that he actually didn’t because a friend of mine presented some compelling info on it— that’s called being open and willing to change your mind if presented with information that goes against your current paradigm. What a concept!)
Yes, I said Christians too. I said that with a deep love for Christ (whom I do believe existed but am exploring the possibility that he actually didn’t because a friend of mine presented some compelling info on it— that’s called being open and willing to change your mind if presented with information that goes against your current paradigm. What a concept!)
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Let’s shed some more people. Leave if you want, I don’t mind one bit. Actually, I’d prefer it because I will not silence my perspective or conform to how people believe I should act/think/speak to appease others. ✌️see yourself out.
Now if you respectfully disagree and want to engage in a discussion, time permitting, I’m happy to.
PS “her own baby” rather than “her own body.” Oops.
Now if you respectfully disagree and want to engage in a discussion, time permitting, I’m happy to.
PS “her own baby” rather than “her own body.” Oops.
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And I say that while also personally sharing much of the perceptions from the categories listed above.
This points to a deeper issue of identity. Are you identifying with these labels? Who are you? If you believe that a piece of you is that which you believe in, you will defend it dogmatically, because you subconsciously believe that removing it from your field is removing a piece of you. More on that later.
This points to a deeper issue of identity. Are you identifying with these labels? Who are you? If you believe that a piece of you is that which you believe in, you will defend it dogmatically, because you subconsciously believe that removing it from your field is removing a piece of you. More on that later.
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Christine here. I’ll be hosting a voice chat again tomorrow, June 28th, at 3pm Pacific, 5pm Central, 6pm Eastern or whatever time it converts to in your time zone. For those who haven’t attended one before they’re an informal chance to say hi, connect, acknowledge where we’re at and explore whatever topics or themes feels most relevant for us. The banner at the top of the channel shows the countdown to it and you can click on that banner at the time of to join. Looking forward to it.
My last musings on this topic, then I’ll leave it alone.
Our society, overwhelmingly, does not understand that life is sacred, that sex is sacred, that the body is sacred, that motherhood is sacred, and that nature and the earth are sacred.
The issue is much, much deeper than a binary “yes” or “no” decision on choice.
And the reality is, many people in the pro-choice camp do not view abortion as taking a human life.
I and many others do.
Despite this, reluctantly, I am pro-choice. Let me explain why.
Forcing people into moral positions will only cause them to entrench themselves into their current paradigm which is, essentially:
“it’s just a clump of cells, don’t tell me what to do with my own body. Abortion is empowering.”
Now we know this is not true. It is not empowering. It is not just a clump of cells. It is their body, correct— but there is also another body growing inside of them (which, again, for clarity, I believe the woman has exclusive rights to determine what happens in her own body).
Because of their current paradigm and the nature of the conditioning many of these women have been subject to, they WILL NOT hear you or seek to understand where you’re coming from if you simply say “you don’t have a right to murder your baby.”
They don’t view it as murder, and forcing them into a moral decision instead of encouraging them to further contemplate their decision will, as I stated before, only lead to them entrenching themselves in their current position.
Rather, I personally think the right approach is to say, “yes, you have a choice! Have you spoken to multiple women who’ve had an abortion? Do you know the truth about Margaret Sanger? Planned parenthood? Is life sacred? Are you sacred? Is motherhood sacred?” Etc., etc.
And an even deeper discussion, as I stated before, is the lack of understanding on the sacredness of life, of relationship, of sex, of YOU as a man or a woman created by God.
If we were encouraging people to do the inner work, to heal their trauma, to understand their own worthiness, to bring sacredness back into their lives, to only enter relationship with and have sex with people they have a true bond with, abortion wouldn’t even be a discussion.
In summary, I think winning hearts and minds and helping people truly understand “why” cannot come from force. We have to allow choice, but it is also our duty to speak freely on the long list of reasons abortions, with rare exceptions, are vile and shouldn’t happen.
Lastly, I think the government should stay out of this entirely— it’s a huge win that Roe vs. Wade was overturned, because any removal of power from the federal government is great. I don’t think states should have the right either, though. I hate labels, but I consider myself a voluntaryist/anarchist. This is a much deeper discussion.
Our society, overwhelmingly, does not understand that life is sacred, that sex is sacred, that the body is sacred, that motherhood is sacred, and that nature and the earth are sacred.
The issue is much, much deeper than a binary “yes” or “no” decision on choice.
And the reality is, many people in the pro-choice camp do not view abortion as taking a human life.
I and many others do.
Despite this, reluctantly, I am pro-choice. Let me explain why.
Forcing people into moral positions will only cause them to entrench themselves into their current paradigm which is, essentially:
“it’s just a clump of cells, don’t tell me what to do with my own body. Abortion is empowering.”
Now we know this is not true. It is not empowering. It is not just a clump of cells. It is their body, correct— but there is also another body growing inside of them (which, again, for clarity, I believe the woman has exclusive rights to determine what happens in her own body).
Because of their current paradigm and the nature of the conditioning many of these women have been subject to, they WILL NOT hear you or seek to understand where you’re coming from if you simply say “you don’t have a right to murder your baby.”
They don’t view it as murder, and forcing them into a moral decision instead of encouraging them to further contemplate their decision will, as I stated before, only lead to them entrenching themselves in their current position.
Rather, I personally think the right approach is to say, “yes, you have a choice! Have you spoken to multiple women who’ve had an abortion? Do you know the truth about Margaret Sanger? Planned parenthood? Is life sacred? Are you sacred? Is motherhood sacred?” Etc., etc.
And an even deeper discussion, as I stated before, is the lack of understanding on the sacredness of life, of relationship, of sex, of YOU as a man or a woman created by God.
If we were encouraging people to do the inner work, to heal their trauma, to understand their own worthiness, to bring sacredness back into their lives, to only enter relationship with and have sex with people they have a true bond with, abortion wouldn’t even be a discussion.
In summary, I think winning hearts and minds and helping people truly understand “why” cannot come from force. We have to allow choice, but it is also our duty to speak freely on the long list of reasons abortions, with rare exceptions, are vile and shouldn’t happen.
Lastly, I think the government should stay out of this entirely— it’s a huge win that Roe vs. Wade was overturned, because any removal of power from the federal government is great. I don’t think states should have the right either, though. I hate labels, but I consider myself a voluntaryist/anarchist. This is a much deeper discussion.
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You can authentically share your position without censoring yourself, while also speaking from a position of love and compassion
Speaking truth and speaking your perceptions does not require that you act in a self-righteous, arrogant, holier-than-thou manner.
(I need to hear this too, oftentimes).
Speaking truth and speaking your perceptions does not require that you act in a self-righteous, arrogant, holier-than-thou manner.
(I need to hear this too, oftentimes).
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Christine here. The voice chat I’m hosting is starting in 5min. You can click on the banner at the top of the channel to join. For those who haven’t attended one before they’re an informal chance to say hi, connect, acknowledge where we’re at and explore whatever topics or themes feels most relevant for us today.
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