Key point:
Narcissists are not capable of feeling Empathy.

Not.
Capable.

Some gems from the chat.
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This is my experience with my mom: It's like they want you to feel the shame and guilt more than they do - for whatever that is. It's their self-centered protection place in a way... if you feel more shame and guilt than I do than I'm okay, fuck what place I put you in to get me feeling okay with myself. Total lack of empathy. It's the worse and as feeling deep empathy you just want to love them more, or change so they are the person who they are supposed to fucking be in our lives... or like me seek out orphan families, friends that have somewhat normalcy. I don't know if this makes sense but wanted to vent. I feel your angst and pain. Holding you close in my thoughts.

TR, have you ever tried putting mirrors up around you? It is a form of protection. The mirrors show the person their reflection. Sometimes I get astonishing results, immediately. I placed them around me when seeing my MIL and FIL last encounter. ( I chose that word on purpose 😂) They each opened their mouth to insult me and both closed their mouth and said nothing. It was AWESOME.
It is a whole new level of suck when it’s your mother and she is ill. I was there. I knew when she passed it would be a mess of emotions as well. It took some time to navigate. If you ever want to talk let me know. I will listen and validate your journey if you need that for comfort. We are here together for a reason. I feel it. You’ve got this!
You can also Unplug energetically. Visualize a plug 🔌 in a wall. Pull the chord out. The emotional connection will sever. You can always plug it back in if you wish. When I do this, I feel nothing. End of drama. End of energetic vampirism. There is nothing. It is drastic, but sometimes needed for self preservation. When and if you plug back in and re-engage, you can set up strong boundaries and have a game plan ( get in the offensive) or something like that… I’m not a sports person. 🤗

They aren't fixable but they can be managed meaning when they know we see through them they will leave us alone and find another target until they alienate everyone and are left by themselves. That is what is coming for these types. We see the splitting of good and evil more clearly now. They can't hide behind the facade of phoniness. Light brings out the worst in them. I do enjoy triggering one of them sometimes but mostly do my best to steer clear. That's probably the best thing to do is just avoid if you are able. They want a response to their BS because in their sick minds it justifies their behavior and they can deflect it. It doesn't work when they know you see thru them.

Look up the word Narcopath and see if it fits the one you're dealing with now. This is the highest end of the narcissist spectrum. Worst ever. Fukking demons. But once you know what you are dealing with the game changes. Sending strength to you.

Definitely no joke. The mental game and mental abuse/violence is very hard to deal with. But when one wakes up to see what's going on, and heals from it. It's so wonderful on the other side. Sending you love ! ❤🌸❤

I found that all the narcissists in my life, not only gaslight, but they throw energetic bombs. If they are caught in a lie or caught in a corner, they throw a huge energetic bomb to divert the pain and confusion. ( They are great at false flag events!) I have been the target of these bombs many times. Why? Because we hold so much light and it disturbs them. The thing I eventually learned, is although these bombs are devastating to our emotional and energetic well being, they don’t have to be. Just like whenever someone throws something at you, it catches you off guard. You try to catch it, but do you want to catch a bomb? NO!!!! They want you engaged. They want to knock you off your balance point. That’s the purpose of throwing the bomb! They want to take you down with them. So, I learned to not touch it. Don’t pick it up. Don’t own it in any way. That’s their toxic energy and it has nothing to do with me. So, I observe it for what it is and I leave it. I don’t internalize it. If I slip up and reactively engage, once I realize what happened, I cleanse myself of all energy that is not mine, reset my boundaries, gently put the bomb down and disengage, unplugging my energetic connection to the person. It works really well. Now, from a higher perspective, these people are teaching us boundaries. As an empath and energy worker, I had terrible boundaries. I wanted to help everyone, feel everyone. Lesson learned by my spiritual partners - the narcissists. For that I am grateful, even though I’m a bit war torn and beat up. I arrived at my destination. So, calling all narcissists- further missions are not necessary. I learned the lesson. Move on 😁 I remembered how to play this game. 💝

Truer words were never spoken. I have a book that helped me to understand it. I read it long after i got away from it. The effects do linger 😢 I gained such clarity & understanding. Go protect yourself because there isn’t much else you can do once You know what your dealing with. Book 👇

Narcissism
Denial of the True Self
by Alexander Lowen, M.D.

There are two types of narcissists: overt and covert.

The overt ones are the people that come to mind when we think of the word “narcissist”. They are grandiose, often openly rude and their need for attention is obvious.

The covert ones are much more difficult to recognize and to deal with. On the surface they seem nice. Many people will think they are wonderful, but their targets are tortured with a cruel form of abuse and because many don’t believe them when they try to articulate what is happening, it adds to the gaslighting effect.

Understanding this difference is very important. It’s also important to realize that many people do not understand what a narcissist actually is and they certainly don’t understand the covert form. It takes experience and/or research to truly get it.

So, don’t be surprised when people who may be trying to help advise you to just work it out with the narcissist or give you helpful advice that’s just not really very helpful.
I learned to keep my mouth shut about it long ago unless I knew the person was actually familiar with the issue.

Just thought someone might need to hear it 💕

Lots of great conversation going on in the chat.
If anyone is dealing with narcissistic abuse, please know you’re not alone.
Holy moly it’s a freaking epidemic!
Kinda makes sense tho.
The world is a vampire and all. 😂

GM, frens. Have a beautiful day. <3