Some artists even allow tracing. For example, the creator of My Hero Academia -Hirokoshi - DOES allow fans to trace from his art and use them. I’ve seen many people with mha ocs trace his art to create their ocs as close to the Hirokoshi artstyle as possible.

Tracing is a very helpful tool to improve and get better at art. I’ve used 3d poses and pose references to trace before, and 1. It made me create pretty art 2. It helped me learn some proportions.

Is tracing bad? Well, depends on HOW you do it. If using reference pictures and tracing over real life people is bad then lock me up because I’m guilty. However if you trace from an artist that doesn’t like their art being traced and you don’t credit them, then yes that’s wrong don’t do that. But if you’re using it for improvement purposes then by all means go ahead.

However creating a whole CHANNEL to shit on an artist for tracing when 1. They’re just a kid/teen trying to create something 2. They aren’t tracing off other artists work (as far as I’ve seen) and it’s just reference images, then YOURE the fuckass.

Maybe YOURE the coward to call out someone on another channel.

“Even professional artists don’t trace!”
*loud incorrect buzzer* WRONGGGGGG
I’ve seen professional artists - people who’ve GRADUATED with an art degree from college, have worked in the animation industry and art industry with years of experience now in their mid to late 50’s - say they have always used references to trace. People HAVE to stop thinking art is raw. Art is never raw. No one has raw talent. It takes years of dedication and learning basic shit for you to even create something you can be proud of. Stop acting like everyone draws raw. They don’t. You want to create good art??? It’s normal for you to use a reference and even sometimes trace off that reference. The artist in particular being “called out” hasn’t even traced off another artist or even if they have, they haven’t not credited the artist.

It’s just Pinterest aesthetic reference images.

اتو دادی دستم که

مردم خایه ندارن برن چنل اصلی بگن این کصکشارو

I don't think it's ok to trace without giving proper credit and source material. I do think it's bad and pretty wrong to copy someone else's idea and composition and never give proper credit.

And remember, what I'm about to say next is not to defend anyone. I still do believe the person in question was in the wrong for not giving credit. That is all valid and true.

If you're a beginner artist whose just starting out, and wants to learn basic anatomy or face shapes or anything of that matter but cannot grasp the fundamentals, you can trace for the time being as you learn it. There is no shame in that. It's to easily grasp and learn better and we're literally meant to observe and copy the things we like, so I think that when you're beginning as an artist and haven't had a good grasp of the fundamentals yet there is 0 shame in tracing IF. IF. YOU GIVE PROPER CREDIT.

And I'm not saying this as just some new guy. I've been in the art community for a long ass time. I've studied art. I'm a digital artist myself. I've been practicing and drawing art for a long time now. So I'm saying this with years worth of experience and analysis of different artists progress and art growth. I'm not just pulling shit out of my ass here.

If there's an art style you really want to learn and be good at, it's absolutely ok to try and trace that art style and learn how it got made and post it WITH PROPER CREDIT.

So I think people are mad at the wrong thing here. The message of this whole thing shouldn't be " oh this guy is tracing tracing is wrong " for fucks sake why are Iranian internet communities always four years behind other international communities. the art community has already been through this fuckass debacle. We all agreed tracing for beginner artists is absolutely fine and dandy if they give credit. Y'all are mad at the wrong thing here. The problem is that when didn't give credit and claimed it was her own original idea.

Oh and by the way

" it doesn't matter that she's 15!! " it actually absolutely fucking does. she's just a kid. There were better ways to handle this rather than literally wasting everyone's time making an entire goddamn channel just to 'cancel' her. I don't know why people are so heartless to each other. There were way better goddamn ways to tell her to just give credit to the artists she's tracing. Oh she doesn't admit to it? Ok then just have a civil goddamn conversation with her about tracing and copying, not bring an army of people way too fucking older than her suddenly shouting at her for being a fraud or a thief or bullshit like that all just because she likes creating art but doesn't know the fundamentals.

Get a goddamn job tf are you doing tweaking over a 15 year old on telegram 😭😭😭

Iranian telegram communities are way too behind on this shit we’ve had this debate on Reddit for years 😭😭😭😭

Basically this!!!

کامیونیتی ارت ایران وقتی یکی از شکم مامانش پیکاسو نیست

کامیونیتی ارت ایران وقتی یکی از شکم مامانش پیکاسو نیست

Or when people make fun of that girl who says I'm in black pink and all making videos with her voice making goddman stickers and filters and she's just SO YOUNG and she litterally did NOTHING wrong other than being cringe and the worst part is
Everyone who makes fun of her had their own cringe era and never wants to admit it