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My gf is about to watch Rains of Castamere episode

What should i ask her before we watch it :) she doesnt like robb or his wife that much but roots for starks and thinks robb will win the war

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Why Tyrion was the closest to being the main character of the series

First off, nobody in the show nearly died as many times as him. He came close to death probably close to ten times and survived his entire family.

The war began with him being kidnapped by Catelyn, and ended with him convincing Jon Snow to murder Daenerys. He even was the influence behind who became the new King and then goes on to become the hand at the end.

He also has the most screen time in the show.

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Am I supposed to care?

I’m just finishing watching season 8 of game of thrones, and got to cersi death and I’m just thinking to myself, am I supposed to care? The way they make the scene is like a person I care about is dying.

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I'm still so confused by this scene. Why didn't Hound give Arya to the Arryns? Sweetrobin and lords of the Vale would still be accepting of her since she's a Stark.
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How famous was Oberyn as a fighter?

Obviously Oberyn was known as the "Red Viper," but how famous was he as a fighter? I'd think that Jaime, the Mountain, and Barristan Selmy were probably the most famous, and during Oberyn's duel with the Mountain in the show, Jaime seemed surprised that Oberyn was beating the Mountain.

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[no spoilers] Could the North become a lot richer if they started a fur trade as furs would be valuable in the southern kingdoms during winter?
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Finally watched Game of Thrones. Extremely memorable show and proud to have watched it.

Disclaimer: I have not read any of the books (yet), now I'm definitely tempted.

I'll start off with saying the show was good man, it really was. Even after the book content dried up, the plot kept on going and despite the poor dialogue and the removal of the GoT essence, the show was still entertaining.

I tolerated many of the bad points, the rushed pace and poor interactions, BUT.

Personally, I despised the Jon Snow reveal. All this time, I thought his entire character was being based off being a bastard, and uniting the North and the free folk. I fully expected his mother to be wildling or something, anything that still made him a "bastard". Ned Stark's character didn't needed to be destroyed by this change, could've made up any other story, either he protected another woman, or he had one fall from grace, I would've taken it any day.

I am aware the books build up to this. I am criticizing the book right here.

Why do I hate Jon being the rightful heir to the Iron Throne? It removes his character. He's always been the underdog, the one uniting people and fighting for justice, being stupidly honest just like his father and first and foremost THE bastard. It would've been the perfect underdog story, from bastard to king.

Because he had legitimacy, that made him a threat to Daenerys. He was literally forced to kill her, even if he was dishonorable (by letting her live), I doubt he would've given his life away, he broke vows to survive. The moment Daenerys spoke in Valyrian in King's Landing to her army he knew his days were numbered. If he was still a bastard, he would've only killed her for justice, better solidifying this plot point. He wouldn't do it because of better ascension.

If he's a bastard, the wheel is still broken. No other bastard ever took the throne. The final plot point still stands.

The only other ending I take with the Jon Snow reveal is a bad ending. He kills Daenerys, he poofs the Unsullied, and claims the Iron Throne. Literally the perfect ending for Game of Thrones. Even after all of this, the wheel cannot be broken, and power hungry people exist. Nothing changes, maybe he's a slightly better king, but he has many enemies just like any other Stark. The game continues.

The ending was too good to be true, it was an ending that was best for all realms. Too fairy tale like. Even with the supposed details of the novel and excellent buildup (that are yet to come), I still despise this ending. This is Game of Thrones man.

Anyway, excellent book/show, despite all of its flaws. It genuinely felt like the perfect show up until the death of Tywin Lannister. After that, it was a mess.

Proud to finally be a viewer of the show and finally join related discussion! After all these years!



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I don't understand why Jon's idea of sealing the tunnels has never been considered. I honestly can't see any benefit to venturing North of the wall other than killing Craster
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