Overheating MSI Vector 16 HX

My son saved for two years and got himself this MSI Vector 16 HX in April this year. It been ok till now. Recently though its shutting down after fairly normal load. I’m a Mac sys admin, no idea about pcs really so I used Ai to assist troubleshooting. HWinfo logs showed an issue which along with Kernel-Power Event ID 41 / Event ID 6008 resulted in ai stating. This behaviour indicates a fault with the cooling system (thermal paste, heatsink seating, heatpipe or fan), not a software or configuration issue, and to seek repair or replacement. We changed maximum processor state to 98 before generating the logs and configured MSI center to balanced as well. What I’m asking is does this confidently look like a product issue where return is best. It’s still under warranty

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Need help with weird performance

I have an msi katana a17 ai with a ryzen 7 ai and an rtx 4060. After not even an hour the laptop will start performing very poorly with severe frame drops. It feels like it's thermal throttling but it shouldn't be since the temps are around 40-60°C. Also the fans are on full speed the whole time and they don't slow down even after closing the game and waiting for a while (even fn + arrow key up doesn't work which is supposed to be fan control). Another thing is that turning DLSS on or off doesn't affect performance at all when this is happening. I'd really appreciate any help with this since it's very frustrating.

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Ripple effect on keyboard(Stealth 16, steelseries)

Hey folks, I have an MSI Stealth 16 AI laptop with steelseries keyboard and it has per key rgb as y'all know. But Steelseries app doesn't have ripple effect which I think is pretty nice. Is there any workaround to get ripple effect on it?

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MSI Service Center quoted $880 for a motherboard, then $300 for a CPU? Need advice on this inconsistency

I’m looking for some insight into a very strange repair experience with an official service center (ServisPoint Turkiye) regarding my 5 years old MSI GL65 Leopard (10SFK-062).

The Specs:

Intel Core i7-10750H

RTX 2070

Upgraded: 64GB RAM, 2TB PNY NVMe + 960GB SanDisk SSD.

The Issue: While performing a routine thermal paste change, two screw heads sheared off (likely oxidation). During the process of removing the remaining parts of the screws, something went wrong. Now, the laptop won't boot—no fans, just a single light on the middle front panel.


1. Monday 2 PM: Laptop checked in.
2. Monday 5 PM: Tech calls and says the Motherboard (MOBO) has no power. Quote: $880 USD + VAT for a full replacement. I refused.
3. Tuesday: I pushed for extensive troubleshooting because of the status light.
4. The Pivot: The same technician calls back. Suddenly, he says it’s just a "CPU problem" and some other "unnamed components." New quote: \~$300 USD + VAT.

The Red Flags:

The Price Gap: Why was there a $500+ difference for the same non-functional machine within 24 hours?
The Hardware: As far as I know, i7-10750H is a BGA (soldered) chip. Usually, official centers replace the whole board. How are they quoting a "CPU replacement" for $300 unless they are doing board-level repair they previously claimed they wouldn't do?
Transparency: The tech refuses to provide component codes or photos of the damage.
The "US Product" Excuse: They are now claiming they "don't normally service US products" (bought via Amazon.com) as a reason for the friction.

My Questions:

1. Has anyone dealt with ServisPoint Turkiye? Is this "price sliding" normal?
2. If the CPU is soldered, is a $300 "CPU repair" even legitimate for an authorized center, or are they just trying to see what I’ll pay?
3. What should my next move be to get an honest diagnostic?

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New laptop update could not be completed
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Need help undervolting a Titan w/ 285hx

Im was a AMD user prior to getting my Titan. Ive never undervolted an Intel cpu, let alone a laptop cpu. Im curious if anyone can help me get started? I've never used throttlestop. Are there any Titan owners that have some pointers on using throttlestop. I know each silicon is differentMy temps are great so far but temps can always be lower.

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MSI Katana A15 vs ASUS TUF Gaming A15

Hi, question lang. I saw a good deal online with this laptop for more or less 60k pesos. Is this a good laptop to use for my work (2d, 3d modeling and renders)?

MSI KATANA A15 AI (B8VF-404PH)

𝐒𝐩𝐞𝐜𝐬:

• AMD Ryzen 7 8845HS

• 16GB(8GBx2) 4800Mhz

• 512GB NVME PCIE

• Nvidia RTX4060 8GB Nvidia DLSS 3

• 15.6" FHD IPS 144Hz

• Exclusive Cooler Boost 5 Technology

• Windows 11

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I am also eyeing ASUS TUF GAMING A15 (FA507NUR-LP051W) worth 55k pesos

Specs:

-AMD Ryzen 7 7435HS

-NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050

-16GB DDR5 RAM

-512GB PCIe 4.0 SSD

-15.6" FHD 144Hz display

-Windows 11 Home

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Which is better and sulit?

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RFKILL Logic Failure in EC Firmware v1733EMS1.429 (MS-1733)

I am writing to report a critical issue with the EC firmware update for the MSI GE700 (MS-1733) series, specifically EC firmware version 1733EMS1.429.

I own two MSI GE700 laptops, and both systems exhibited identical failures immediately after applying this official EC firmware update.

After updating to EC firmware 1733EMS1.429, the following issue occurs:

The Wi-Fi hardware toggle (Fn + F8) no longer functions.

The WLAN adapter is correctly detected by the operating system.

When the Wi-Fi card is physically removed, the WLAN driver disappears as expected, confirming that the PCIe interface and WLAN hardware are functional.

Other EC-controlled devices such as Bluetooth, camera, and pointing devices continue to toggle normally.

The issue persists across multiple operating systems, including different Windows installations.

This clearly indicates that the EC firmware is no longer asserting the WLAN RF\KILL signal correctly, while other EC functions remain unaffected.

The following steps were thoroughly tested on both laptops:

EC reset (AC removal, battery removal, power drain)

BIOS default reset

Multiple operating system installations

Driver reinstallation and rollback

WLAN hardware replacement and verification

None of these steps restored WLAN toggle functionality.

The problem only appeared after the EC firmware update.

Both systems were fully functional before the update.

The issue is 100% reproducible on two identical GE700 systems.

This behavior strongly suggests a firmware-level regression affecting the WLAN RF_KILL control logic.

Currently, EC firmware version 1733EMS1.429 is the only version available on MSI’s official support website.



Model: MSI GE700

Mainboard: MS-1733

EC Firmware: 1733EMS1.429

BIOS Version: E1733IMS.10D

Operating Systems Tested: Windows7, windows10 , linux



I earnestly request older EC version 4.23 for downgrade (1733_423.zip etc... or patched ROM file l).

Email: eismcc@naver.com



Thank you for your time and attention.



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msi modern 15 i5 battery

is limiting to 80% really help prolong battery life?

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My freind keep saying he has a rtx 3090ti laptop (dedicated gpu not external)

Did any company made laptops with rtx3090ti??
He sent me proofs of task manager even in minecraft f3 menu pls reply if its true

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Buzzing noise on my GF63

I bought this one used and it had no problems at first. Recently it started making a weird buzzing sound sometimes. It's a fairly short, low noise, goes like brrrt and I can't figure out why it happens. My drivers are up to date, I've tried restarting the laptop, which sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. One time it froze up and made the noise for a longer time, but usually it's just short bursts.


Does anyone know what this is and how to fix it?

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Vector GP76 wired headphones problem

Sometimes wired headphones is detected, and in windows settings the volume bar is moving but there is no sound. Not sure what the cause is, and usually fixes itself in days or 1-2 weeks. Any solution for this?

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Help with screw size on MSI Delta 15 A5EFK fans
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CPU power throttling Intel CPU-s

Hello everyone, I wanted to share if anyone is having issues with high temperatures and power throttling, I have found solutions that works on Cashy-OS (Or maybe every other distro) and Windows as well.

For the start. For windows use xtu tuning utility. Set turbo boost power on both sides from default 200 down to 27-35w ( I use 27). You can modify it to start on system start up. This should lower temps by 20 degrees, depends from game to game. Fps stays the same!!!

Now for the interesting part. For a long time I wondered if I can do this in Linux as well since I dual boot. Turns out you can. Simply by using the terminal with 2 simple commands. As long as I knew this feature is built in the kernel and should technically work on any distro? But its a thing called Intel rapl. Its supposed to control total package power. Now just like on windows. You can set same parameters or different ones. Good thing you can do this while in game.

For the short explanation u have constant 0 which is maximum package power?
And you have constraint 1 which is your power for turbo boost (which generates the most heat probably)
On my mashine I have set constraint 1 to 27 and 0 to factory 45.
Commands:

echo "45000000" | sudo tee /sys/class/powercap/intel-rapl/intel-rapl:0/constraint 0 powerlimit uw


echo "27000000" | sudo tee /sys/class/powercap/intel-rapl/intel-rapl:0/constraint 1 powerlimit uw

I hope this wasn't to long, and I would be happy if it helps anyone.

Edit: Few grammar corrections 😅
Also I tested this method on world of tanks on cashy os. Before I had 85-93 °C and after I had 65-70 °C!!!!
And at the same time keeping my fps hovering around 150. On both cases I used max fan speeds.

Oh forgot to add, my laptop is MSI Katana GF66 12UE with rtx 3060.


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Why is MSI center loading for 10 minutes and doesnt open
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MSI cyborg vs MSI stealth (newest gen with rtx 50 series)

I don't see the msi cyborg listed at many websites unlike the msi stealth. I was looking for a laptop to travel and game on occationaly as my lenovo legion has started to break. Curious if there's anyone who prefer either or.

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Audio issue acpi crackle and how downgrade bios

Hi, I’m looking for a way to downgrade the BIOS on an MSI Creator Z17 A12UHT (2022).

Since updating to BIOS E17N1IMS.115, my system has become ¹unstable:

ACPI-related issues as Audio crackling / glitches (especially under load with traktor or on youtube)

And now also Wi-Fi disappearing.

I’ve already tried: Clean driver reinstall (also Intel only, no Killer),Removing drivers via pnputil, BIOS reset or optimized defaults.

LatencyMon always shiw ACPI.sys power-related behavior looks off

Some moths agi Everything was more stable than now..I think before this BIOS update 115 , so at this point I strongly suspect a regression introduced by the new BIOS, which seems to have added new problems instead of fixing anything.

I’d like to try with old BIOS versions ( E17N1IMS.111), but MSI doesn’t seem to host them anymore.. or is it hidden?

After days of optimization in this hell, this desperate man has even started to have crazy thoughts like
"Maybe if I had a mac.."

Brothers help me to find my way back to the right path.

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For those looking to research the MSI Vector 5070 ti A16, here's my experience against 5070 ti competitors Acer Predator Neo Helios 16 and Neo Helios 16s

Hey guys, I just want to share my experiences with 3 laptops. I got both Acers eBay refurbished when both were pretty discounted ($1210 lowest during black friday but since has gone up). The MSI Vector a16 which is available now at 1299 from Walmart.

General specs: As most people are aware, the Acer slim comes with a slightly underwatted GPU, a thinner chasis that uses aluminum partially and a OLED screen, and comes in at around 5 lbs. The full size model uses the 140 W and is a bit thicker at a little bit under 6 lbs. The vector is a bit bulkier going over 6.2 lbs and it is certainly thicker as well and it's largely to accommodate the fans and more heat pipes. All around the same graphics card and the CPUs are comparable with the acers slightly taking the edge. Both acer laptops have the advantages of 32gb ram and the vector has 16.

Build: Mostly the Acer laptops are the same. Both Acers have standard trackpad and keyboard. I did notice the matte finish made my fingers a bit dry. The MSI Vector has a noticeably clickier keyboard which is nice and smoother trackpad. The Vector does feel a bit more premium than the standard Helios but the slim has more aluminum in its bottom that gives it a nice feel too. All three have arguments for best build depending on priorities of size, finish, and feel but id generally lean the 16s due to its way better slim feel.

Performance: this is where things get interesting. I tested all 3 vigorously against benchmarks and games - the 16 predator and Msi vector performed similarly hitting 120-123 fps in Halo Infinite with lows of about 110-113 on all settings maxed (no RT). The slim despite its smaller gpu, holds up admirably hitting 107-110 fps in quiet areas, dropping to 97 in full combat. Similar results were found with Witcher 3, and a few other games. Interestingly, benchmarking results actually showed the full size predator matched the mini predator, suggesting the constraint is likely thermal + power supply+ CPU based. My conclusion is if you're looking for pure performance, the full size Acer predator is the best since it comes with more RAM, but I would not be worried about performance on the slim. It is actually very strong and quite close. Across real games, i consistently found ~11-13% difference at most.

Screen: All of them have great screens, but if you care about OLED, there's an obvious winner with the predator 16s. It is a bit reflective so it's not for everyone. But all offer 1440p. The msi vector and non slim have 500 nit ips.

Thermals: Another interesting discussion here. The MSi Vector is BY far the loudest, and it sometimes is loud even during idle. However my unit became busted at some point drawing 95 degrees on idle (a lemon!) But even before then, this was the case that it was a little louder than the others and it seemed consistent with reviews. Both predators are easily quieter during idle stages. However, there is a trade-off in terms of noise and cooling consistently. I found that the larger MSI vector stayed in lower temperature And I believe Acer has a a lower throttling point for both laptops. From a practicality perspective though, if you don't plan to run a turbo fan and you care about noise, the Acer laptops are probably better. The slim definitely out of the box runs the hottest and you'll notice throttling right away. But we'll talk a little bit more about that in a second. If you care about noise, the MSI Vector is not a good fit. The larger Predator likely has the best balance of noise and thermals. You will realistically never use the cool burst extreme for the Vector since its so obnoxious, I wouldn't even use extreme performance.


Battery life and portability: to be honest, all these have not great battery life, but I think the MSI Vector probably has the second weakest whereas the slim despite its low profile and portability purpose actually has an awful battery

life because of its OLED monitor that you cannot set below 240 no matter how you try unless you use CRU and which case you might get down to 120. As it relates to size and weight, the 16s is just straight up the best for portability and the Vector is a giant brick, the standard Helios is a nice in between but still a bit heavy. I cannot imagine carrying the vector around alot, and even the larger helios feels like a drag to carry around the house. The Vector made my backpack bulge with my work laptop. The slim is super nice if you want to watch movies in bed

Software: They are all terrible resource hogs. The MSI Vector has the distinguishing factor of actually raising your CPU temperature when you use it to monitor, so do not use it. It's such a resource hog. Acer also comes with so much bloat predownloaded but all can be deleted.

Customability: This part is probably not for the casual gamer, but if you're willing to tweak settings, each one has extremely interesting outcomes. The MSI Vector has probably the most custom options since it uses an AMD chip and you can actually unlock undervolting to better manage temperature and fan noise. MSI also doesn't block stuff as much. You must do this for this laptop, otherwise it is so loud. The Predator slim also has the ability to access god mode or the more advanced bios. While you still cannot unlock undervolting using throttle stop will get you extremely similar performance for way cooler temperatures and this will significantly alter the value proposition. By setting power limits, I was able to get FPS in Halo from about 104 to 107 and my laptop was noticeably cooler whereas before it was peaking at temperatures of 95 to 100 plus, it stayed at a cool 80° C with similar performance. This is a massive win. I did not notice similar advanced bios for the larger Predator, but I did not try to use any throttle stop since it wasn't as needed, but it might still have been nicer

External fans: I highly recommend this for anyone using any of these laptops. You'll notice it the mos the MSI Vector but the larger Predator will also benefit for a lower stress games and it brings it to a pretty quiet session for esports. It will still be loud for AAA games.

Value for price: This highly depends on sales you find. During black Friday if you took advantage of ebay refurbished, the best value is likely either of the predator laptops with 32 gigs of ram. At full price new, the msi vector has the cheapest point of entry but ram upgrades will close that out significantly.

FINAL THOUGHTS:

1.If you are looking for a desktop replacement with best price per performance, the helios predator 16 is the best since it performs the best, and ram prices arent cheap. Build quality can be mitigated by external accessories. If it is largely docked, size is not as big an issue and it runs decently quiet when not gaming.

2. If you care at all about oled, size, and portability - i cannot stress this enough - the Predator 16s stomps. The performance is not that different at all especially once you factor in upscaling/frame gen. You can 100% play whatever AAA games you want with little to no compromises. If you feel comfortable messing with power limits it increases its value because the primary issue with this laptop is its terrible cooling. I do wish the battery life was better. If you are looking for a secondary device to complement your desktop, this is what you are looking for.

3. The MSI vector despite me getting a lemon has alot going for it as well. It has a better keyboard + trackpad and is lowest price brand new. Customer support and qc for acer is also extremely questionable. However it is not a portable machine and it is noisy. As a result i must recommend the acers over this. I should say in no way does me getting a lemon discourage me against it. I still think it's a good machine for its price especially if you are not interested in refurbish and can't find better deals.

Hopefully this helps people that are buying laptops in this range. Overall i think if

youre after 1440p peeformance these laptops offer among some of the best price for performance and perform close/better than desktop 5060tis while offering good vram 12gbs. While im sure the Lenovo laptops 5070 ti are nicer, there is alot going for these. Happy to answer questions.

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Laptop Screen Issue— Can this be fixed?
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